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Old 08-15-09   #21 (permalink)
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Think about it this way: The GTX 275 is the GTX 285 minus the extra VRAM. If you overclock the GTX 275 to the FTW settings it might beat out the GTX 285, but overclock the GTX 285 to its FTW settings and beyond and it beats out the GTX 275.

You can get a EVGa GTX 275 for $205 after MIR or a BFG GTX 285 for $285. To me that extra $80 isn't worth it especially with DX11 cards coming out in less than a month. I would be tempted to say get the GTX 275 and you might consider selling it for a DX11 card when they come out.
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Wow good point I completely forgot about DX11. I think I'll just save 100 bucks and get a GTX 275. Should I pay for an OC'ed version being a novice to overclocking. I've heard some people say to just buy a reference card and OC it, but I wouldn't know how to do that. Is it easy to learn to learn to overclock a gpu?
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If your careful and take the proper procedures (there's a guide on OCN somewhere), I don't see a problem in oc'ing it yourself. You gotta start somewhere. Even if you don't decide to oc it, the 275 should be plenty enough power for you to use
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Alright thanks I'll look into it. Sorry for all these questions but I just have one more. Because I'm switching to a 275, I could either save the money or use it on another component. Should I bother getting a bigger psu or a modular psu?

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I'm using a Corsair 850, have yet to find anything wrong. I would just get a modular instead. Although the HAF932 is big, there's still not too much space to put all of the extra cables.
And if you have enough to spare to save you in the future, there's nothing wrong with the 1000W
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Alright thanks. The Corsair 750 watt Modular on Newegg is 165 so I might do that. But I just remembered, I was going to just transfer my current hard drive to my new build, but its kinda old. Its Western Digital but not the Caviar line. It has an 8 mb cache and is 7200 rpm. Would I see any improvement upgrading to a Western Digital Caviar Black 640gb 32mb cache?

Cause at the moment I could either upgrade the hdd or the psu to modular/more wattage.

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HDD are the life of your computer so invest in a good one. For good boot times with some storage I would go with a Velociraptor. I have the 300gb and love it everyday. It was a lil pricey when I bought it but its well worth it. Put your OS and games on it, then get a 1tb drive for storage.
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for even more owningness get two and put them in raid 0

For PSU anything over 850watts is over kill unless you plane on running 5 hdd, i7 975, (2) GTX 295's and watercooling. If your not doing that then the 750watt will be just fine

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Alright I think I'll get a Corsair 750hx. How are ssd's? I mean could I put my OS on a really small capacity ssd? If not I might just get the velociraptor 150gb.

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Wow good point I completely forgot about DX11. I think I'll just save 100 bucks and get a GTX 275. Should I pay for an OC'ed version being a novice to overclocking. I've heard some people say to just buy a reference card and OC it, but I wouldn't know how to do that. Is it easy to learn to learn to overclock a gpu?
Buy the Vanilla card. The factory overclocked cards are a gimick and a bad one at that.

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Alright thanks. The Corsair 750 watt Modular on Newegg is 165 so I might do that. But I just remembered, I was going to just transfer my current hard drive to my new build, but its kinda old. Its Western Digital but not the Caviar line. It has an 8 mb cache and is 7200 rpm. Would I see any improvement upgrading to a Western Digital Caviar Black 640gb 32mb cache?

Cause at the moment I could either upgrade the hdd or the psu to modular/more wattage.

Thanks again, these forums are amazing!
Just so you know, The corsair 850TX could more than likely run a Core i7 and 3xGTX 285's and a watercooling loop. Since you're not going anywhere close to that kind of load, the HX1000 would kind of be a little overkill. Just to point it out, the difference between the 850TX $110 after MIR and the HX850 for $190is that the HX850 is partially modular and have a better design, but both would serve your needs and the 850TX is alot cheaper. The 850TX in my opinion is the best Wattage/price bargain.

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Alright I think I'll get a Corsair 750hx. How are ssd's? I mean could I put my OS on a really small capacity ssd? If not I might just get the velociraptor 150gb.

Thanks again for all this help!
As for SSDs, they do have amazing access times and are absolutely phenomenal when you see them in action. Their price is what has currently kept me away. The OCZ Vertex series $120 for 30gb and the G-Skill Falcons $205 for 64gb are the current favorites.

Personally, I would buy 3x Western Digital 640gb Caviar Black for $75each or $225 for 3 and put them in Raid 0. It won't have the extremely low access times like the SSDs do, but it will have the read and write (as well as being able to sustain that fast read and write) times as well as 30times the space. You could even do what is called short stroking if you don't need 1.9tb of space. What you do is simply make the drive partition smaller than normal so on a 640gb HDD you will have roughly 580gb of usable space so create a 300gb partition on each and leave the other 280gb as raw space. This will give you 900gb of usable space and much faster speeds (again the access times can't compete). The bad thing about getting a SSD to just run the OS is that if you are gaming and not installing the games on the SSD, then you've lost the benefits of the SSD during gaming which is kind of pointless.
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I've looked at some benchmarks of the GTX 275 1792mb version, and in games it doesn't seem to help to much, even at high resolutions. Is there any point to this version, or am I missing something?

Thanks again!

EDIT: Sorry I just thought of another question. Can I just reinstall Vista on my new hdd with the same key?
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