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Old 08-27-07   #71 (permalink)
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Wow I dont even know why this steams me a little but e21x0 tjuction IS 100c, not 85c.
Prove me wrong here other than saying myeh myeh its 85c myeh.

On other forums there has been some speculation about cpus tjuction not being the same on the same cpu's. Some 85c some 100c.

The only way to know for sure is to revert back to stock frequency and stock vcore or lower, and check the idle temps. If they are below ambient than its false and add +15c.
Something that is producing heat is not going to be a lower temp than the cold AC air in the room.

And Hopefully all of you have your ambient sensor placed near or around the cpu/cpu heatsink and not buried in the corner of your case somwhere(since temps will generally be higher near the cpu). And I HOPE nobody is simply reading what the temps says off of your air conditioning unit XD
Well lets see..

I think it is 85C due to:

I have my bios set at 60C auto shutdown
At bios screen 15 mins it's low 30C on a 70ish room I don't have a thermal sensor.

At idle in coretemp is it at 23C
This is at stock volts.
at least 51-53 with a nice OC..
AC is on with it off 55-56C
not stock volts btw.

core temp is reading high 60s sometimes 70s. (+15C whatever is coretemp / speedfan).

Well I can't understand how it can be possible that TAT is reading 60+ when my PC is set to shutdown at 60C and the CPU does not throttle nothing at those temps so explain that.

e2140 is 85c
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What voltages are you guys using? My E2160 will do 320mhz fsb on stock voltage but wont do anything past that no matter how I fiddle with the vcore, fsb or mch voltages.
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You are still failing to provide the key factor in your temps which is what the ambient is.

And of course your pc wont shutdown over 60c because most bios are reading something other than what the true tjunction is for the cpu and are usually off by -10c to -20c

Nore have you done what I suggested about reverting back to stock freq. /stock or lower vcore, and checking whether or not your idle temps are lower than ambient which you cant check since you dont have an ambient sensor.


Go look for any cpu tjunction thread you will see that its 85c for one person and 100c for the next. Its not the same for everybody.
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What program are you reading temps with?
I use coretemp, speedfan and evergreen. I don't know which one is correct.

1. BIOS

core 0 - 25C
core 1 - 27C


2. Core temp Tjunction -100c

Idle
core 0 - 41C
core 1 - 42C
Load
core 0 - 56c
core 1 - 57c

2. Speedfan
Idle
core 0 - 28C
core 1 - 29C
Load
core 0 - 43c
core 1 - 42c

2. Evergreen
Idle
core 0 - 37C
core 1 - 39C
Load
core 0 - 53c
core 1 - 54c


So, which one is correct?
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I use coretemp, speedfan and evergreen. I don't know which one is correct.

1. BIOS

core 0 - 25C
core 1 - 27C


2. Core temp Tjunction -100c

Idle
core 0 - 41C
core 1 - 42C
Load
core 0 - 56c
core 1 - 57c

2. Speedfan
Idle
core 0 - 28C
core 1 - 29C
Load
core 0 - 43c
core 1 - 42c

2. Evergreen
Idle
core 0 - 37C
core 1 - 39C
Load
core 0 - 53c
core 1 - 54c


So, which one is correct?
what is your ambient temp/clock frequency/vcore
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What voltages are you guys using? My E2160 will do 320mhz fsb on stock voltage but wont do anything past that no matter how I fiddle with the vcore, fsb or mch voltages.
stock volts.. 1.15

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You are still failing to provide the key factor in your temps which is what the ambient is.

And of course your pc wont shutdown over 60c because most bios are reading something other than what the true tjunction is for the cpu and are usually off by -10c to -20c

Nore have you done what I suggested about reverting back to stock freq. /stock or lower vcore, and checking whether or not your idle temps are lower than ambient which you cant check since you dont have an ambient sensor.


Go look for any cpu tjunction thread you will see that its 85c for one person and 100c for the next. Its not the same for everybody.
:\ I think you may be correct.. Mine may be 100C which means uh oh. But but.. I don't understand

I need a temp sensor.
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