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Hunting for my max OC on my 2160 L2, but noticing some weird temps.

I have a Hyper TX2 like Avalanche there, and am also running at 3.0ghz at the moment. I cleaned & reseated the HSF w/ AS5 after initial temps were very bad, I also replaced the intel pushpins w/ a backplate. (VERY nice).

I had to give mine a little voltage bump so it would stay at about 1.29v under load (vdroop is bad on P5K).

Temps are 33c idle, but load temps vary. Orthos blend is around 59-61C. Orthos small FFT is about 65-66, and Intel TAT will hit 70C if I let it go. Also, at idle TAT reports temps about 2C hotter than Coretemp, at load TAT reports temps about 2C cooler than Coretemp.

If anyone has advice interpreting these temps on a E21x0 I'd appreciate it so I know what to look to next. I'm worried about going higher right now, already had one BSOD in TAT after hitting 73C (before reseating).
you def need to reseat.at that vcore you should be running a lot cooler then you are, even with the stock cooler. as far as temps go the L2's thermal spec is 62c....
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Hmm, I can think of a few reasons, gridstop.

When you reseated the CPU, did you use Isopropyl alcohol? You must clean both the heatsink and the cpu extensively before applying AS5 for the first time. Also you must clean it with something that wont leave any dirt or traces.

While under load, launch speedfan and check the fan speed. It should spin up to nearly 2000rpm. If not something is wrong.

Also, Im not sure if you even need that much voltage. Mine runs stable at 1.25V (my board is always 0.25V lower than BIOS). Less voltage means less heat.

As a last resort you may consider lapping the heatsink and cpu IHS. That is a slight risk, though. The HyperTX series coolers are up there with the best. There are better coolers, from Zalman, but thats pretty much it. Tuniq etc. are all about the same power.
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Edit: had some stability errors. Sorry for jumping the gun.
Working my way up more SLOWLY now.

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So when stress testing my system simply reboots. Just instantaneously, like someone hit the reset. No errors, no nothing. Nothing in the logs...

Anyone have any idea what could source this?

E2180, 400x8, 1:1 Timing on 800 ram, 1. 1.475Vcore, (1.42 in Easytune)...maybe just not enough vcore, but if it was totally CPU dependant, i'd think an error would come first. Maybe it's more MB or RAM dependant.

VID is 1.270
As of right now, reverting to 10x multiplier and 300fsb, Vcore at 1.33 53* temps. Stable 25 minutes and counting.

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Welcome to OCN, mtnickel!

You missed to post your VID, that'd be very interesting. In general your temps seem to be fine. Just a tad bit higher than mine (depends a lot on amb. temp.). The drop in vcore will definitely benefit you if you want to run it for years to come.

In general two 3.2ghz cores are just very nice
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So when stress testing my system simply reboots. Just instantaneously, like someone hit the reset. No errors, no nothing. Nothing in the logs...

Anyone have any idea what could source this?

E2180, 400x8, 1:1 Timing on 800 ram, 1. 1.475Vcore, (1.42 in Easytune)...maybe just not enough vcore, but if it was totally CPU dependant, i'd think an error would come first. Maybe it's more MB or RAM dependant.

VID is 1.270
As of right now, reverting to 10x multiplier and 300fsb, Vcore at 1.33 53* temps. Stable 25 minutes and counting.
Reverting to 10x multiplier is good thing. I think the FSB was too high when your multiplier 8. You may need to add a bit more voltage to fsb voltage at that time.
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Load Temp: Load temperature: 72/72

I really need better cooling, my temp gaps are huge.

My temps are confusing too since my Ambient Temp has big gaps depending on the time of day

I also need to increase the Vcore from 1.35 to 1.45 just to get it fully stable past 3ghz.

As soon as I replace my cooler with something better I'll post my new speeds since temps are the limit.
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Do you really keep your Vdimm that high 24/7?

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Reverting to 10x multiplier is good thing. I think the FSB was too high when your multiplier 8. You may need to add a bit more voltage to fsb voltage at that time.
Would it only be FSB voltage? or would MCH (is this northbridge Voltage? NBV?) have to be increased as well.

I'm working a little more methodically learning the ropes now. I think i jumped in a little too fast without REALLY knowing what i was doing.

Tried... 300x10 With AUTO voltages (vcore= 1.36/1.34V) and all was well (14hours).
Same settings but at 310X10 and it crashes. Trying 305x10 now.

Is there a good rule of thumb for Vcore Max on these things? (is it more temperature based? or just the voltage itself?)
I'd want this to last at least 18months - 2 years.
My temps seem pretty good (50 Load @ 3.0ghz), but i dont' really know what GOOD is.
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Would it only be FSB voltage? or would MCH (is this northbridge Voltage? NBV?) have to be increased as well.

I'm working a little more methodically learning the ropes now. I think i jumped in a little too fast without REALLY knowing what i was doing.

Tried... 300x10 With AUTO voltages (vcore= 1.36/1.34V) and all was well (14hours).
Same settings but at 310X10 and it crashes. Trying 305x10 now.

Is there a good rule of thumb for Vcore Max on these things? (is it more temperature based? or just the voltage itself?)
I'd want this to last at least 18months - 2 years.
My temps seem pretty good (50 Load @ 3.0ghz), but i dont' really know what GOOD is.
14 hours for 3.0G, you have a stable rig. Regarding the fsb and NB voltage, in this case, it should be a small increase for fsb voltage then NB only when it needs. I don't think it is a clear rule for vcore and voltage max. lower vcode and temperature are always good. Typically, for air cooling, you should keep them lower as possible. I would like keep mine around 1.5v for vcore and load temp at 60c (As you know, I have M0 processor).
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