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Mxbn0 · 09-30-08

“Overclocking the E5200 proved to be a piece of cake. Literally, I achieved a 2GHz overclock, reached a speed of 4.5GHz and simply put, it was a walk into the park.”

If overclocking was this easy, everyone and their mother would be doing it.

Its never that simple, and if it were, people still wouldn't do it. i know lots of people who are relatively tech savvy that would NEVER, EVER overclock their system. people are too used to getting what u pay for. they believe that their computer will explode if you touch anything in bios to do with the hardware clocks, which has been said before ,i am sure.

gtarmanrob · 09-30-08

mm its not so much skill as product knowledge. if you know what parts you have, what they consist of and what they can do, you can basically push it past its stock limits, aka overclock, without any real skill except changing a value in the BIOS. for basic overclocking.

i think patience and research is a more deciding factor in overclocking.

i mean, anyone who knows how to turn a computer on can boot in and overlock @ 4ghz, if they have an identical setup to someone that has also achieved it, and they post their exact settings and results for all to see and copy. that doesnt need skill at all, just common knowledge of where to go in your system.

FozzieBlair · 09-30-08

hmmm...i dunno if its about "skill" in the sense that he implies, that you need some kind of innate talent or understanding to be able to o/c. I have a very rudimentary knowledge of computers, i understand what hardware does what, how it interacts, and have some concept of what various complications (such as BSOD's mean) are caused by. However this is all from doing reading, my own browsing, research, and trial and error. I am certainly not skilled, but I can overclock and troubleshoot to a certain degree.

I think it's more important that an overclocker has patience and is capable of doing things in a logical progression. Like isolating conditions so when something does fail you can trace it back to a single change. Changing your FSB and your RAM timings at the same time while messing with vcore and NB voltages 9 times out of 10 isn't going to work.

Course I am a research scientist so that type of approach makes sense to me and is something I am very used to.

blitz6804 · 09-30-08

With Intel processors, it really is just that easy. Drop in the parts, increase the FSB. If it crashes, drop the RAM divider and/or up the CPU voltage, increase the FSB some more.

AMD processors require more tweaking because of the Hyper Transport and integrated memory controllers.

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Originally Posted by GoHigh

Right now, as I am typing this on my 3.87Ghz quad core, I am not solving some complex equation that may help the humanity as a whole nor am I running 30 different apps at the same time. ONE window, one app, nothing else.

Talk about a waste of money. Perhaps you should enable EIST and reduce your electric bill? I am right now typing from my 1.25 GHz 5400+ Black Edition. When I wish to game or fold, it will automatically ramp up to 3.25 GHz.

**txtmstrjoe** · 09-30-08

For a true test of OCing skill, grab yourself a DFI LANParty UT CFX3200-DR, plug your HDD in the ULi SATA controller, and put in any old S939 chip and the RAM of your choice.

Get that kit running stable at stock, you have my respect. Get it clocked to around 2.7GHz, you have my admiration. Get more clock speed than 2.7GHz, you have my undying esteem.

Do all that without ever experiencing the urge to smash the motherboard into a billion pieces with a sledgehammer, well... you are simply divine.

The truth is, some component combinations do require experience and knowledge and an analytical approach; call this "skill" if you wish. Some component combinations, however, are much easier to squeeze. Think about why steppings and BIOS versions are questions OCers ask about all the time...

Back in the day, overclocking was much more a dark art than it is today. Ever tried overclocking not with BIOS options, but with myriad jumper adjustments? I haven't, and I really don't want to. But those people who did that and were great at it... they deserve more respect and cred than any of us today (unless, of course, you are one of those crusty grizzled veterans who did all those things) will ever do.

Today's enthusiast-level parts are ridiculously easy to OC. Why? The hardware manufacturers have made it so. They may poo-pooh you for overclocking this and that, saying OCing voids your warranty, but why would they give you Extreme Edition/FX-series/Black Edition CPUs and OC-friendly motherboards at all?

Sometimes, the biggest skill is to suppress one's frustration and greed for speed. This is one skill too few of us have, unfortunately.

CorryBasler · 09-30-08

YEah its also the luck of the draw! Some chips OC great and some of the same kind (6000+ and 6000+) OC like crap!

Infinitegrim · 09-30-08

there is 1000000x more luck involved! Just started overclocking in July, got my e7200 up to 3.6Ghz and 4.0Ghz woot!. not even 20 minutes ago i decided to see what the highest allowed vcore would allow, i set 1.360vcore and the fsb to 500 and the multi to 8.5 bam running at 4.25Ghz. There was no skill used here! Just knowledge and luck

blitz6804 · 09-30-08

So; your first ever overclock is... 1.47 GHz? Do you know what my very first AMD overclock was before the "up the HTT until it cries out in pain" kicked in? 220 MHz. After educating myself on the nuances of overclocking, the chip topped out at an unstable 896 MHz or an unbreakable 600 MHz overclock. Again... you were able to get up to 3.6 GHz (1.07 GHz over) with your first ever attempt. 1.47 GHz overall. Last I checked, 1.07 GHz and 1.47 GHz were both far larger than 220 MHz and 896 MHz.

GoHigh · 10-01-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

With Intel processors, it really is just that easy. Drop in the parts, increase the FSB. If it crashes, drop the RAM divider and/or up the CPU voltage, increase the FSB some more.

AMD processors require more tweaking because of the Hyper Transport and integrated memory controllers.

Talk about a waste of money. Perhaps you should enable EIST and reduce your electric bill? I am right now typing from my 1.25 GHz 5400+ Black Edition. When I wish to game or fold, it will automatically ramp up to 3.25 GHz.

I think you are missing the point... I realize that I could have done that on my pentium 2, but what I was trying to say was that in most cases, overclocked CPU itself is an overkill for most day to day applications.

BTW, I don't know if you realize it but most Intel overclocks does not allow for EIST or C1E. It does drop the multi down, underclocking a CPU, but it does nothing to change the voltage pumped to the CPU itself, which does nothing to save electricity.

And, I live in Tennessee, where we have self sustained power sources through the use of dams and rivers, so power is actually really cheap.

d3v0 · 10-01-08

It's more of a matter of obsessive compulsive perfectionism.

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