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Old 11-19-08   #121 (permalink)
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Ok so say I'm running with Nehalem and the Rampage II Extreme board, and Westmere comes out next year (late 2009), which is 32nm but runs on the same socket (1366), could I upgrade to Westmere easily, using the same board? I just want to be ready for the future that's why I'm going with i7 rather than a quad core. I don't want to completely change all my hardware whenever something new comes out.

They're talking about this tick-tock strategy where I think we'll see huge performance increases with Westmere and better overclocking so I certainly want to be ready for that.
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i wouldn't count on it for sure, and if you are worried about it supporting future CPUs i wouldn't get an ASUS. I have had boards where other manufacturers just needed a bios update to support a new CPU but ASUS wants to sell more boards so they don't make that new bios, they make a new board that supports it.

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i wouldn't count on it for sure, and if you are worried about it supporting future CPUs i wouldn't get an ASUS. I have had boards where other manufacturers just needed a bios update to support a new CPU but ASUS wants to sell more boards so they don't make that new bios, they make a new board that supports it.
My M2N32 AM2 board got phenom support way before the other manufacturers and it works (not that I personally bought a phenom but I know people who did and the board worked great).

Westmere is just a die shrink with minor tweaks. It's excruciatingly unlikely that a R2E wouldn't support such a simple transition.
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My M2N32 AM2 board got phenom support way before the other manufacturers and it works (not that I personally bought a phenom but I know people who did and the board worked great).

Westmere is just a die shrink with minor tweaks. It's excruciatingly unlikely that a R2E wouldn't support such a simple transition.
my Striker Extreme didn't support 45nm Quad core CPUs.

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my Striker Extreme didn't support 45nm Quad core CPUs.
Nvidia chipset = fail. LMAO: That's not Asus' fault. If you bought a 45nm QUAD without researching that then it's your fault, else only Intel can be blamed for not disclosing the info with nvidia.

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I think I'll contact Asus about this, I mean what kind of crap is it to purchase nehalem + motherboard and then another huge sum of money for westmere + another motherboard while the chip is on the same socket. I want to be sure of this, I'll let you guys know.
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Go ahead and contact asus. I already know the answer is an affirmative. This is the X58 chipset on a high end board we're talking about here.
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Could someone with a kit that runs at 1.65v or less give me a picture of your ram timing control page? i'm thinking if i loosen my timings to the same as one of those kits maybe i can get my ram to work at higher clock speeds.
Well I am at work right now, so all I can give you is a pic of the cpu id ram timings. When I get home, I will take a pic of the settings in the bios.

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Nvidia chipset = fail. LMAO: That's not Asus' fault. If you bought a 45nm QUAD without researching that then it's your fault, else only Intel can be blamed for not disclosing the info with nvidia.

http://www.google.com/search?q=680i+...ient=firefox-a
I didn't buy a 45nm quad without researching... I Knew about this problem, and didn't buy a 45nm quad till i had a new board. I'm just saying i wouldn't count on it 100%.

telling me if i bought a 45 nm quad without researching is like telling this guy next year when the 32nm processors come out, that if he buys a 32nm CPU without researching it's his fault... it's not his fault he bought the board, it was top of the line, but not "future proof"...

Bottom line is that no one knows for sure what the 32nm move will bring, maybe higher QPI speeds? who knows, but you can never be sure that you will be able to keep the board you have now and upgrade to the newest CPU. AMD has been nice recently and if your board doesn't support HT 3 then you can run HT 2, but that doesn't mean intel will do it.

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Well I am at work right now, so all I can give you is a pic of the cpu id ram timings. When I get home, I will take a pic of the settings in the bios.
thanks, i can set those timings easily but there is a ton more settings in my bios and if i just set those timings my system won't boot into windows, so i was hoping to get all of them.

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