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6.14.11.7741 really is 177.41. Somebody showed this to me a few days ago: 6.14.11.7741. The other two aren't drivers, though.

Anyway, try some other drivers, but not 185.85. I actually kinda liked 182.50, and II noticed that a few others do too, but I'm liking 186.18 as well just like almost everyone else who's tried it.

I mean, it could be the driver.

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oh man..just a few days after my stable overclock..I am getting blue screens and instant crashes of the PC most likely due to my RAM..because it happens mostly when opening folders / making windows display things..even the bios was lagging and crashing until I restored the RAM speed to defaults..

let me mention again that..it is 667mhz Kingston RAM..DD2..

and its factory voltage is 1.87 in BIOS (voltage monitor)

when i rise it to 800 mhz..and even with a voltage of 1.95 in bios(manually set)..i still get the blue screens..



EDIT: (you should know that i flashed my OLDEST bios with 1901)

if i tweak the clocks in bios..and reset with saved changes..screen wont come up until i shutdown and restart again..but whenever i go to BIOS..the clocks are at my tweaked values..but in windows it shows factory clocks..

PS..whenever i exit from BIOS with TWEAKED values..computer screen wont lit up..and after reset it might start up and go into windows..but the CPU Z will never show my overclocks..which still remain tweaked in BIOS though...

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680is are horrible to OC imo, my E8400 had a 500MHz FSB hole. Would not boot up @ 1600 MHz, but would work fine at 2100 FSB.

And even then, it was never stable

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I apologize for saying this, but Kingston isn't exactly known to be good memory for tweaking past stock. Not even their HyperX.
According to the screenshot below, just manually set the memory to the stock values in the far-right column. After that, it is best to just leave it alone. Like I said earlier: with the nForce chipset like we have, it's best to not overclock the memory, but get the tightest timings possible. Remember? I am willing to go over it again if you want. After all, I have the time, and I have the passion for it.



Not to be rude, but more just curious: what made you do that?
I don't understand. Can you elaborate some more? Screenshots will help too. Oh, speaking of screenshots, check this out: I just learned that Alt+Print Screen captures just the active window! Try it out!
Can you post a new screenshot of CPU-Z to show what you're talking about? Which tweaks are you making? I mean, it could be anything here.

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I was just curious about keeping the Ratio 1:1..if that is not necessary like you mentioned before..then i guess I should just tweak the processor ONLY..but the trick you told me about..to set the clocks to 6-6-6-18 1T..but that is when it is overclocked to 800 mhz..at default it is 5-5-5-15 and 2T..what do you recommend to do with these at 667 mhz..to get a good response rate..

well..i installed a new OS 64bit..and when i was downloading drivers for the new OS i found BIOS updates and i was just curious to see if it has some more efficiency..and the reason that the AI NOS overclocks never worked for me in the old version..

Well what i mean to say is that..after flashing my BIOS, whenever i change the memory..display wont come up after saving changes..and then i just shut the PC down by holding the power button and next startup brings the display..and now i can do TWO things: follows

1 - NOW on THIS STARTUP(after a force reset) if i go to BIOS again..i'll have the TWEAKED settings..but exiting from BIOS again wont start the computer..

2 - ON THE OTHER HAND if i skip BIOS and go to windows..over there CPU-Z shows DEFAULT values for everything..seems like BIOS resets to DEFAULT after the FORCE RESET..but the Fact is..whenever i access BIOS..my settings are all at MANUAL..
should i try FLASH the BIOS with the OLD one again?

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For now, the best thing may be to use all the values in the far-right column of CPU-Z and possibly worry about tweakin' the memory later. So of course, use Unlinked for hopefully the best results. Once the CPU is overclocked enough; either to your liking, or close enough to it, then that's when you can tweak the memory. Or hey - you can leave the CPU at stock and work on the memory by cranking the timings down as tight as possible without touching the memory clock of 667 MHz.

I was taught by a few different people that, with the nForce chipset, it's best to work on the timings first, and then worry about the clocks (if possible - and it probably won't be - even mine won't allow me to go over 800, and that's their stock clock - but damn, look at those timings. I'm in love).
Oh, I just learned something: what I learned is that I mis-read what you said, and I interpreted it as you flashed the BIOS to the old one. hehe Oops. I'm always in support of flashing to the latest BIOS though!
This is very, very familiar for me. What might be happening is that the overclock failed, and so the motherboard is temporarily loading the factory default settings without actually replacing the settings that you chose. So when it does this, think of it like it's saying "The overclock isn't stable enough yet. Please enter the BIOS to continue tweaking before attempting to boot", or something.

In other words, it'll re-load your settings when you reboot the motherboard. But if you don't reboot the motherboard, then it'll use those temporary settings until it's rebooted. Once it's rebooted though, it'll try to use your settings again (it won't know if you changed them or not, so like a good computer just doing what it's told, it tries again).

See, as I was working on my overclock, I had a few times where I would try a new setting only to have it fail 3 times in a row. On that 4th time, it would load the factory default settings so that I could get back into the BIOS and continue tweaking and try something else. This is one thing cool about the newest motherboards: they actually display a message about the failed overclock before loading Windows instead of just doing what our motherboards do.

If there remains anything unclear, then I will try to clear it up for you.

P.S. This is completely off-topic, but damn: which ASUS power supply is that? I mean, that's pretty cool that it's powering your rig with the GTX 260! I wanna know more about this to help other people see that they don't need a 600W power supply or something for the GTX 260. lol

I mean, I already knew that the Corsar VX450W could easily handle it, but damn... this is kind of a shock to me.

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thanks for the help mate..much appreciated..I'll try tweak the timings first and see if that allows me to start up..if not I am getting 800mhz corsair ram soon..

but...

i think i'm in a lot more trouble here..since i updated my bios, new unknown devices appeared in my device manager which got installed from the chipset drivers but after installing them i now see my hard disk partitions as EXTERNALS..i mean i can see that green icon at the task bar to safely remove them..it includes ALL my partitions..

I have surfed the internet in hope to find a solution to that but there is none..its off topic but i suppose you're the one who can help atm...

About the PSU..well...i don't exactly remember but i surfed alot of forums where i finally found that my PSU is basically enough to take the load..frankly i even used that PSU LOAD test in OCCT..and i left it for like 20 mins..it went fine..

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ghulam_phantom

This is my second reply to your post..i did some testing with the clocks and timings..what i found was that..my RAM will no more accept the 6-6-6-18 1T settings..

in fact..


5-6-6-18 2T
This is what comes out on AUTO..and man...does that SHOCK me rofl..after so many days when its back on 800mhz...everything seems sooo fast..startup never has been so fast before..i wonder if i get the new ram im gonna make that go up as well hahaha..

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Wow, this is awesome. It just so happens that I might be able to help.

First, this is normal, safe and easy to "fix". There are two ways to disable that silly icon in the System Tray. The first thing is to try the latest nForce 680i driver. When I did this in XP, it got rid of the icon.

But up until I used this driver, I always had to perform a registry tweak to get rid of it. Below is the majority of a tutorial I wrote a long time ago on this. You can either follow the tutorial, or you can download the Registry key that I have attached here: DisableRemovable.txt It is for 32-bit XP. Rename it from DisableRemovable.txt to DisableRemovable.reg. Then open it and click OK both times (or just double-click it, and press Enter twice).

But, here's the tutorial excerpt (it had a ton of unnecessary dialog in it - and it still does even after cleaning it up lol):

We're going to add a DWORD Value called "DisableRemovable" to a registry key named "nvata" for 32-bit users, and "nvata64" for 64-bit users*.

Here's the registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\nvata

*For 64 bit users, look for "nvata64" instead of "nvata".

If you need to learn how to add a DWORD Value, then follow these instructions:

1. Right-click on the registry key in which you want to add a DWORD Value.
2. Choose "New".
3. Choose "DWORD Value".
4. Before doing anything else, just type DisableRemovable.
5. Press Enter twice.
6. Where it says "Value data", put the number '1' there.
7. Press Enter.
8. Don't close anything yet.

Ok, so you've just successfully created a new DWORD Value called DisableRemovable for the nvata/nvata64 registry key! You've also just successfully modified it's Value data so that it functions the way we want it to! Nice.

Alright, so Regedit is still open. We do want to close it, but first, we want to collapse the tree because Regedit likes to stay expanded, or rather, it doesn't automatically collapse everything when you close it to give you a fresh start the next time you open it (but I have a fix for that if you want it), so simply do this:

1. Press tab once. This moves the focus to the tree view. Or, just click on the key again (nvata or nvata64) to highlight/select it.
2. Press your left arrow key exactly 9 times.

Now you're at the top of the tree with My Computer selected and the tops of the five trees showing. A 10th time will collapse My Computer too. So now it's nice and clean with every single key collapsed that we opened up in order to get where we were.

And now the final step to this is to restart your computer. After it's restarted, you should notice a pleasant lack of that icon in the System Tray.

Cool, huh?
Aw, so you don't know which model it is?
So perhaps it needs more voltage. Mine did. It may need more than you think.
However, I'm surprised that it's faster this way. Although, it might be faster either because it's more stable, or because it has a 1:1 ratio, or because the CAS Latency is tighter. Either way, I'm glad it's faster!!!

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AMAZINGG!! its such a reliefff!!

I think i mentioned it before..This is the PSU im using..http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=Q6ENYFC6LFuZW9WY

It's on 1.975volts in BIOS at the moment..next step is 2.0..and by the way..the STOCK voltage on 667 in the hardware monitor shows 1.88..and for the overclock i got it to 1.97..so should i try a notch higher for the timings?

EDIT: I tried 2.00 volts with the timings and still no luck..should i go further?


A little offtopic question again :P

what is this device? i remember when i downloaded the new chipset drivers and when i installed it..it generated this driver..and everytime i get it installed..it pops up again asking 'a new driver found' and no matter how many times i do it..it'll popup again...Should i just uninstall it? to be honest i had it uninstalled for the past few days after i installed the updates from ASUS/support latest chipset drivers..but it popped up again soon as i installed the chipset drivers you mentioned from nViDIA website..

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