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So...is this normal? And if not, what should i do to fix it?
It's absolutely normal. [Source]
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It's absolutely normal. [Source]
doh! Ok well thanks for all your man help! Can't wait to get this even higher when i buy a new cooler
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doh! Ok well thanks for all your man help! Can't wait to get this even higher when i buy a new cooler
hehe I gotcha.

Anyway, you're welcome. I'm glad to be a part of this.
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FYI: I'm a guy.

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CPU
E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
Motherboard
EVGA 680i (122-CK-NF68)
Memory
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Awesome.

... I like to think of overclocking as though it's a game....
I agree that it is supposed to be fun.
Just know that it is a game that can get your hardware fried if you don't keep it running under reasonable temperature & voltage limits

Agree that it is not recommended to use auto voltage. It does tend to set it higher than needed. To be safe, I recommend to maintain your voltage (as read in CPU-Z), below 1.50 V for your particular CPU.
If CPU-Z

With regards to Vdroop, many think of it as a motherboard "undesired" characteristic. It is not. Vdroop is meant to protect your CPU from overvoltage when it switches from LOAD to IDLE.

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I agree that it is supposed to be fun.
Just know that it is a game that can get your hardware fried if you don't keep it running under reasonable temperature & voltage limits

Agree that it is not recommended to use auto voltage. It does tend to set it higher than needed. To be safe, I recommend to maintain your voltage (as read in CPU-Z), below 1.50 V for your particular CPU.
If CPU-Z

With regards to Vdroop, many think of it as a motherboard "undesired" characteristic. It is not. Vdroop is meant to protect your CPU from overvoltage when it switches from LOAD to IDLE.

Enjoy it!
How does Vdroop protect the CPU from overvoltage when it switches from load to idle?
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The Truth about Temperatures and Voltages

FYI: I'm a guy.

System: The Blue & White LED Special (born on 3/12/08)
CPU
E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
Motherboard
EVGA 680i (122-CK-NF68)
Memory
mushkin (4 GB kit #996580) @ 5-5-5-18-1T, 2.150V
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You can see it this way:
  • When under load, the circuitry that provides power to the cpu is fully open to provide the required power under load.
  • when switching from load to idle, the first thing that happens is that the cpu stops requiring that same amount of power but, since the circuitry is still "open", it tends to overvoltage for an instant, while it "closes"
Here you can see much better explained how it works

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You can see it this way:
  • When under load, the circuitry that provides power to the cpu is fully open to provide the required power under load.
  • when switching from load to idle, the first thing that happens is that the cpu stops requiring that same amount of power but, since the circuitry is still "open", it tends to overvoltage for an instant, while it "closes"
Here you can see much better explained how it works
We need to get the word out and stop everyone from disabling vdroop and voffset. Everyone is deceived, and I know it looks like I'm joking or something, but I'm not. I feel like pulling out an eraser right now and wiping the lead off of the resistor to undo my vdroop pencil mod. Good grief, this is mind-blowing. I mean, I just can't believe how deceived most of us are into thinking that it's a good thing to get rid of vdroop, or even reverse it and cause vRise.

I'm actually kind of angry and now because it's going to be hard to convince people without using this article and summarizing it for those who think it's too long to read.

Anyway, thank you, thank you and THANK you for showing this to me.
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vDroop: Do not tamper with it. Source #2: Page 5, Page 6.

The Truth about Temperatures and Voltages

FYI: I'm a guy.

System: The Blue & White LED Special (born on 3/12/08)
CPU
E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
Motherboard
EVGA 680i (122-CK-NF68)
Memory
mushkin (4 GB kit #996580) @ 5-5-5-18-1T, 2.150V
Graphics Card
EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 (1792MB, 55nm)
Hard Drive
64 GB Falcon & a 150 GB VelociRaptor
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer
Power Supply
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We need to get the word out and stop everyone from disabling vdroop and voffset. Everyone is deceived, and I know it looks like I'm joking or something, but I'm not. I feel like pulling out an eraser right now and wiping the lead off of the resistor to undo my vdroop pencil mod. Good grief, this is mind-blowing. I mean, I just can't believe how deceived most of us are into thinking that it's a good thing to get rid of vdroop, or even reverse it and cause vRise.

I'm actually kind of angry and now because it's going to be hard to convince people without using this article and summarizing it for those who think it's too long to read.

Anyway, thank you, thank you and THANK you for showing this to me.
I can't really tell if you are serious or not.
What I think is that the pencil mod, disabling vdroop in BIOS, and other adjustments are more tools that can be used to overclock a cpu.

My intention here is only to help our fellow overclockers understand what they are doing, so if they fry their mobo's or cpu's, it is not a surprise for them.

In any case, you're welcome welcome and welcome

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I can't really tell if you are serious or not.
What I think is that the pencil mod, disabling vdroop in BIOS, and other adjustments are more tools that can be used to overclock a cpu.

My intention here is only to help our fellow overclockers understand what they are doing, so if they fry their mobo's or cpu's, it is not a surprise for them.

In any case, you're welcome welcome and welcome
I really am serious. I'm considering wiping the lead off that transistor and re-adjusting the core voltage to keep it stable, but in a much safer way. I might even do that today as I am going to be installing a new hard drive.
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vDroop: Do not tamper with it. Source #2: Page 5, Page 6.

The Truth about Temperatures and Voltages

FYI: I'm a guy.

System: The Blue & White LED Special (born on 3/12/08)
CPU
E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
Motherboard
EVGA 680i (122-CK-NF68)
Memory
mushkin (4 GB kit #996580) @ 5-5-5-18-1T, 2.150V
Graphics Card
EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 (1792MB, 55nm)
Hard Drive
64 GB Falcon & a 150 GB VelociRaptor
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer
Power Supply
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CM 690
CPU cooling
Tuniq Tower
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Stock
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Ok, i set the fsb to 400 (2.8ghz) just to see what would happen and im running prime95 and the temps are sitting around 57-60c (and by that i mean that its literally going down to 57 then back up to 60(i think i need to change the fan control in the bios)) :O. That's decent right?

Also.. i sense hostility on this thread o.O
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