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You do not need the X58 if you're going to run SLI 295 and I really doubt that will be the case with the 300's
well i might be mistaken but i thought the 295's are saturating more than 8 of the lanes. if you only have 16 lanes on P55 then ur not getting all those cards can offer if using 2 of them.
please correct me if im wrong. and ur probably right about the 300's for the most part, but im just thinking about the top ones ie 395's or whatever they choose to call them.
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well i might be mistaken but i thought the 295's are saturating more than 8 of the lanes. if you only have 16 lanes on P55 then ur not getting all those cards can offer if using 2 of them.
please correct me if im wrong. and ur probably right about the 300's for the most part, but im just thinking about the top ones ie 395's or whatever they choose to call them.
They do use between 8x and 16x lanes, but I think it would only be like a %5 hit to fps.

The on-die pcie controller has lower latency, which compensates to an extent. So, if you had 295s on x58 in 8x/8x, I think it would actually be slightly inferior to P55 8x/8x.

Wait..who buys a P55 with the intent of GTX 295 Quad-SLI, anyway?
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c thats kinda what im saying, if ur not going to do that, and ur not gonna spend the $1000 for an i9, then X58 isnt worth it, P55 would be the way to go. the only reason i have x58 is cuz i bought it months ago and didnt want to wait, if i waited i woulda went P55, dont get me wrong though, i love my rig and might i9 it
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c thats kinda what im saying, if ur not going to do that, and ur not gonna spend the $1000 for an i9, then X58 isnt worth it, P55 would be the way to go. the only reason i have x58 is cuz i bought it months ago and didnt want to wait, if i waited i woulda went P55, dont get me wrong though, i love my rig and might i9 it
Hold on now, I don't know about all that.

Believe me, x58 is just better (but P55 is newer, and with that comes improvements).

All I'm sayin' is, you don't need to regret it.

If you can afford it, it is worth it, imo.
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oh i dont regret it at all, dont worry about that, I FREAKIN LOVE THIS COMP, my first build ever too.
and im glad that im future proofed, but really for the average user on a budget, P55 and an i5 are more than enough.
i dont by on a budget though, FTW baby. i hate that i keep buying more stuff, its addicting. im already planning on adding more waterblocks , i ramble
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Correct me if I am wrong:
i7 has hyperthreading.
i5 has turbo boost?

Lets forget about the video cards and super ultra mega fast usb/hard drive stuff.

Are we even able to use the hyperthreading at this point? I am not doing any video processing, making graphical movies, etc. I am just gaming. Will my games take advantage of this?
What is this turbo boost?

Also, which chip will be easier to OC to 3.0 to 3.5? I think I said something about 4ghz earlier, but I am not to concerned about reaching 4ghz, just want to push the chip a little bit to get that extra hurrumph out of it
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1. for the most part hyperthreading isnt getting taken advantage of much, but as 64-bit os's and 64-bit programs get more into the mainstream, they will. especially since microsoft plans to do away with 32-bit os all together. so basically in the future, this chip will appear to be faster than the day you bought it. its not going to help most games, but the future is coming quick

2. all the i7's/i5 have turbo boost. it gives you extras multipliers if certain conditions are met, check this out. now if ur overclocking, turbo boost really isnt gonna do more than give you 1 extra multiplier. its more for people that are doin everything stock.

3. both chips should easily oc to 3.5, with an aftermarket cooler though. the stock cooler is poop. if ur gonna use stock cooler and the i5, you might as well not oc at all, cuz turbo boost will be able to throttle it up to 3.2 automatically.
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I'm deciding between i7 920 and i5 750 - I'm a casual gamer, and I either intend to get 5770 or 5850.
Which combination should I choose:

1) i7 + 5770
or
2) i5 + 5850

i7 is faster, but i5 is much cheaper?

Also I have heard about x58 asrock extreme - is it a good motherboard, esp for oc?
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I'm deciding between i7 920 and i5 750 - I'm a casual gamer, and I either intend to get 5770 or 5850.
Which combination should I choose:

1) i7 + 5770
or
2) i5 + 5850

i7 is faster, but i5 is much cheaper?

Also I have heard about x58 asrock extreme - is it a good motherboard, esp for oc?

You can easily build a P55 rig, and an x58 rig, which both cost the same. Of course, this P55 rig would in some ways also be better.
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You can easily build a P55 rig, and an x58 rig, which both cost the same. Of course, this P55 rig would in some ways also be better.
How is it possibible to build an i7 rig the same as an i5?

From what I am seeing, the i7 will be over 140 bucks more?

How would an i5 rig be better than the i7?
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