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Old 05-29-08   #1 (permalink)
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Hey there all. I am in the middle of a build and I am stuck. I have a P4 630 with the 2mb L2 and 800 fsb and all that. I have the case and the optical drives, fans and everything but the 3 most important items.

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I am not looking for something directly for gaming. I am a computer programming major trying to minor in game design, so something with nice rendering wouldnt hurt. I do need something that is upgradable should I decide to change processors later on down the road. But it does not have to be gaming oriented. I dont have a budget to replace the processor and the board right now. This is why I am using the P4 processor. I am just so lost when it comes to picking out these 3 items. Basically I need something that could handle light gaming on the weekends, but can handle multitasking with ease using the P4. I do need the board to be able to support 4 case fans though.. and I have a budget of 120$. I am not going to be overclocking...

I really appreciate any input you guys can give, my brain has just turned to mush because of all the studying and I really cant think right now to finish this build. Help me OCN! You're my only hope.
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You should consider selling your P4 on eBay and your existing memory, to generate probably another $70 of budget money. With around $200 you could get into something that will far exceed the $120 you will invest in an outdated motherboard. A motherboard that by the time you want to upgrade the processor you will be looking beyond its capabilities. Heck, you could likely unload the HP Motherboard also for $30 to $40 I bet. But if you want to stick to your original plan you could get:

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Sorry to get 4 3-pin fan connectors you are going to have to get out of the micro-atx budget, so you will have to put around $70 for a motherboard.
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Power supply = Thermaltake TR2 ($41)
Motherboard = Gigabyte EP35-DS3L ($90)
Memory = 2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 ($35 after rebate)

$166 total. A little more than you wanted to spend, but a good P35 board would be well worth it and you could dramatically upgrade that CPU when you're ready. You will also want a PCI-E video card to go with it because there is no onboard video with that motherboard and you want better rendering. I would spend another $50-$75 on a new lower end video card to really help your build. An Nvidia 8600GT would be a good choice for you. EVGA is a good brand, but there are cheaper ones.
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That motherboard will not support Pentium 4's. It supports Pentium E series, like the Pentium E2160.
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Then I guess he needs to buy one of those too . Welcome to the wonderful world of multiple core processing. Seriously though, saving a little more money and getting $300 worth of parts, including a cheap dual core, would be prudent. Building a new system around a P4 and microATX board with onboard video is a waste of money in my opinion.
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Is there a solution that will keep my cost around 600 for those items and possibly a Processor? I kind of need to get this PC back up. Classes have already started and I cant be devoting all my time to this. Plus I really need this computer Up and running. My stimulus check just came in so my budget changed. Quick responses will help greatly. So I need

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all for less than 600$
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Ya, bigtime.

Get a brand new E7200 for $132, the Gigabyte board above for $90, either of the 2GB memory for around $40, and an Asus 8800GT for $135. All that will really help your cause. I would make sure that your case can fit a regular size motherboard though. Step the Power Supply up to a Corsair VX 450w as well for $60. You'll be light years ahead of that P4 and onboard video, play the newer games, render whatever better, and have a system you can still upgrade in the future. Throw in a new case as well if you're feeling frisky.
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Yeah the case is a monster. It accepts both ATX and Micro ATX boards. I just got it in the mail a few days ago. It is a Rosewill R6425-P. The thing is pretty big. I have space so far for 4 or 5 HDD's. Dont know that I will use that many. I appreciate the help very much. I will take some more pictures when I get everything else finished.
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