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This is my first dual core processor, so I'm really not sure how to interpret those CPU temperature readings. It says Tjunction 100C...that doesn't mean its running 100C does it? Each core is around 50C which seems more normal.

Not sure how to fix that, but yea, thats idling (just windows/firewall/logmein running w/ CPU-Z and CoreTemp)...no games or anything. Going to play with the resolutions and maybe monitor temps with WoW running...first have to see if I can even run it from work.
core 0 and core 1 are what you want to look at; those are the readings for each core
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Man, I swear this is going to be nothing but a living nightmare for me. I started WoW and at the login screen as soon as it got to "Connecting" the whole comp froze again. If I change bios' back to the 0608, do you think it will resolve any of these freezing issues?

At first I thought this was a win/win situation and loved the board / cpu combo...now I'm starting to think more along the buyer-beware train of thought /sigh
I think it would be a good idea to try the 0608 before trading in your mobo.
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It could solve some freezing issues. The 608 bios is much more stable. And anyways, It wont hurt to try it. Good Luck
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ok, I talked to Alerio on the phone for a little over 2 hours. He helped get all the bios settings corrected and the voltages under control.

Everything's running fine for the most part, just trying to tweak it now. Basically, I've been lowering the voltages in the bios to help lower the temperatures, but if either core goes over 77C during orthos after about 2 minutes or so, I've been lowering the voltage. I lowered it enough so that it stayed at about 74 after 3 tests, but then I started getting stop errors. Every time I get a stop error, I boost the voltage up 1 notch and rerun orthos. So far the longest orthos has run is 9 minutes before a stop. 1.3000 was the first error, for the first 2 notches above that, I got stop errors as well. Right now I am 3 notches above 1.3000. About to run orthos again.

At what point do you draw the line for your voltage. Aleiro said that it needs to run for 35 minutes without errors. What I'm trying to do is avoid going back to square 1 and having the voltage too high again as well. It seems like there's going to have to be middle ground (for the cheap cooling I have atm) between stop errors after a certain number of minutes OR having a core hit 77-80C during the orthos test at one point or another.


As I understand it, Orthos is going to drive the temps up higher than any game I play.


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It could solve some freezing issues. The 608 bios is much more stable. And anyways, It wont hurt to try it. Good Luck

The 0801 bios has only been out for 3 days, how can anyone make a stability comparison between it and the 0608 so soon?
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35 minutes, no errors

core#0 is bouncing between 80 and 81 celsius though
core#1 77-78

probe2 has it at 52C at 30 minutes, 9 tests into the run

I need better cooling is all on that one. Am using an $11 asus cooling solution atm....of course my gaming should never generate the same temps as Orthos, but no point in leaving a potential problem unresolved.


Idling its at 32-34C
Under full load for the first few tests, it never passed 77C in CoreTemp or 48C in Probe2...is changing though.



Edit: test 10 looks bad =/ has cpu-z/probe2 at 83/81/52...core0 only stayed at 83 for a min, then dropped to 80 near the end of that test. It never dropped back below 80C even when it recycled to test 1 again. At 35 minutes I stopped orthos and labelled it a successs at this voltage. Will reboot and post voltage for anyone interested in using this same combo. Of course, any decent cooling system will produce better temps, but this is a good safe voltage to use with the E6750 / Asus P5N-E 650i Sli board.


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You may be able to go higher with this same combo, but for the moment... I don't have a need for it, so I haven't tested it. And of course the results may vary from board to board /shrug
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interesting.

i was concerned about the high 'core' readings on my rig after bringing the PC home last night, so I factory reset the BIOS this morning (changing only the hardware fan controls) and let windows load up.

idle, the 'core' reading dropped to 47C.

doing a small i/o load (copying about 30 gigs across the network to the local hard disk from the server) brings the temp up to 48-49C...see screenie.

this kinda concerns me. what's considered acceptable for a reading on this temp anyhow?
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Can anyone review my build and figure out why the heck I am getting a 3dmarks score of only 4237? When I had a single core P4 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB processor (real pos) I got a score that was only 800-900 marks lower.

This score is disappointingly pathetic. Also, during most of the tests in 3dMark06, the apps were running 22fps or lower, 1 even ran 0-2 fps. When I play WoW, I get 233fps full screen and everything...whats the deal here?
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2x 7600 GS (512MB)

There is your problem.
With my sig rig, a single 7600GT I score 3800. So two 7600GS's in SLI getting 4200 is no surprise. They are quite a bit slower than the GT.

I also get low fps during 3DMark06 and the ones you got 0-2fps was the CPU tests. I get 0-1fps on those...

So don't worry, nothing wrong with your rig, 3DMark06 is just too taxing.

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OK, I brought my PC back down to my office and got it running at the factory default BIOS settings. The value displayed via the SpeedFan 4.33 readings page under Core 0 and Core 1 is simply called "Core" and is now back down around 42-44C. (See Screencap)

I've sent an email off to the SpeedFan author, but in the meantime I'd bounce the question off of y'all experienced users:

What component/item/area temp is actually being monitored for this value? And, more importantly, once I know that, what are my options for improving my cooling for it?
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