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datter · 03-14-09

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Originally Posted by Paraleyes

Thanks for correcting me there. I went in my BIOS and looked. Yes, I also set everything manually; timings, voltage and frequency to manufacturer listed values. I do that without thinking about it when I buy new memory, so I guess in my mind that means "auto"

Datter- I'll say again though, pick up some Corsair Dominator PC2 8500. They're only $30 for 2G at the egg. They run between 1066 and 1100ish. I just keep mine at 1066 and never have issues. You'll see a huge difference from 857. Plus you may get better results in other areas afterward.

hmmm ok, will set my timings (listed as 5-5-5-18 on OCZ's site) instead of leaving them on auto. I already have my mem volts at 2.1 as per specs. Not sure about the rest of the mem settings aside from the 5-5-5-18 business, though they do have further numbers listed at OCZ. Should I plug 'em all in or just those four and leave the rest on auto?

With timings on auto I did try entering 1150mhz for my ram mhz but it did bad things. Crashed on loading Windows once, then froze up in the bios and failed to boot after that. Had to pull the cmos battery again to bring it back to life. My mem is rated at 1150 but I guess that doesn't mean it will necessarily run at that speed? I've read reviews about my ram with people saying they couldn't get it quite that high. I'm not a benchmarker, so how much differences in real world application (HD video editing, photoshop, 3dsmax, Farcry2, Crysis etc etc) will if I can get it from 857 to 1150?

Paraleyes · 03-14-09

Datter- I doubt you'll hit 1150 unless you put it in a MB supporting higher frequencies, but like I said before, every system is different; every chip, every motherboard or combination of different chips and the memory you put in it, all create different scenarios. With that said, who knows what those "auto" settings actually were set at? At least now you can be sure they are at the factory recommended settings.

Oh, and you'll notice a definite performance gain from 857 to 1150. I've been reading on your memory mainly for something to do. Try 1142MHz once. Also, if I OC my memory and have a system crash, I can usually just take out the memory and reboot with just one stick. Then shutdown, reinstall the rest and reboot. That way you don't have to deal with the battery and everything else in the way of it.

ACHILEE5 · 03-14-09

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Originally Posted by Paraleyes

Yes, the BIOS you want is located here. Techspot.com has a very extensive review explaining the differences between the two chipsets showing detailed performance testing results. Read the review here.

That isn't our board

As i said, it's the Frankenstein Board

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Then there is the more affordable 650i SLI chipset, supporting just 18 PCI Express lanes, it sounds quite poor in comparison, yet this seems to be enough to power dual GeForce 8800 GTX cards. The 650i SLI also misses out on official 1333MHz FSB support, 1200MHz EPP memory support, four instead of six SATA 3 Gb/s ports, and the third PCIe expansion slot for a physics card (right?). Perhaps of lesser importance, the 650i SLI supports a single Gigabit LAN connection versus 680i's dual Gigabit.

Paraleyes · 03-14-09

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Originally Posted by ACHILEE5

That isn't our board

As i said, it's the Frankenstein Board

Hmmm

It certainly was when I looked it up. Now the link won't work at all for me. Try this one. Select "motherboard" then "socket 775" then "P5N32-E SLI Plus" and you'll be able to download the new bios and update utility there allowing you to run your Q9550

YES, I realize this thread is not about the "Plus" version. That link is for ACHIL335

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Then there is the more affordable 650i SLI chipset, supporting just 18 PCI Express lanes, it sounds quite poor in comparison, yet this seems to be enough to power dual GeForce 8800 GTX cards. The 650i SLI also misses out on official 1333MHz FSB support, 1200MHz EPP memory support, four instead of six SATA 3 Gb/s ports, and the third PCIe expansion slot for a physics card (right?). Perhaps of lesser importance, the 650i SLI supports a single Gigabit LAN connection versus 680i's dual Gigabit.

That is an out-dated quote from that review. Since then new BIOS revisions have fixed the FSB limitations. I'm running 1640MHz FSB right now on my 650i.

Also, the ASUS version of our 650i board does have dual gigabit LAN, the 6 Sata ports and the 3rd PCI-E slot for the physics cards that never even got devoloped.

EDIT: What does Frankenstein come from?

Tarabass · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by datter

hmmm ok, will set my timings (listed as 5-5-5-18 on OCZ's site) instead of leaving them on auto. I already have my mem volts at 2.1 as per specs. Not sure about the rest of the mem settings aside from the 5-5-5-18 business, though they do have further numbers listed at OCZ. Should I plug 'em all in or just those four and leave the rest on auto?

With timings on auto I did try entering 1150mhz for my ram mhz but it did bad things. Crashed on loading Windows once, then froze up in the bios and failed to boot after that. Had to pull the cmos battery again to bring it back to life. My mem is rated at 1150 but I guess that doesn't mean it will necessarily run at that speed? I've read reviews about my ram with people saying they couldn't get it quite that high. I'm not a benchmarker, so how much differences in real world application (HD video editing, photoshop, 3dsmax, Farcry2, Crysis etc etc) will if I can get it from 857 to 1150?

What I don't get is that you're doing two things at the time. First you want to OC your cpu, to isolate any problems you where going to put memory settings at stock. Ones you get to your memory settings, you are concentrate on that and want to OC that. It's a normal effect, and human to, and sometimes somebody have to say that to you lol..

That's not a problem, but for sure not my way of working. Now I don't say only my way of work will work, but doing two things at the time isn't helpful. Maybe you should go back to your first initial thing to do. Set memory on stock, and OC'ing your CPU. After that you can try OC'ing your memory, but first priority should be OC your CPU

ACHILEE5 · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by Paraleyes

What does Frankenstein come from?

I got that nick name for the board from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=131452&page=3
At the moment i am useing Bios 1201 on my Plus which is the latest

The settings my board likes are;
400fsb with my 9.5 multi giving me 3.8GHz
400 DRam makeing Ram:FSB Ratio 1:1

You say you're running at 1640, 3.895MHz Right?
And are you at 410 with the ram?
I have tryed 1688 rated FSB giveing me 4.009GHz but it wasn't happy, so i think i will try 1066 ram in there so i can keep FSB:RAN at 1:1 and see what happens

The other thing is, sometime this week i'm going to Novertech and blowing £500 on my rig! So it's the Q9650 or a GTX285ssc

And i think it will be the GFX card i go for, and leave the Quad for a while

datter · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by Tarabass

What I don't get is that you're doing two things at the time. First you want to OC your cpu, to isolate any problems you where going to put memory settings at stock. Ones you get to your memory settings, you are concentrate on that and want to OC that. It's a normal effect, and human to, and sometimes somebody have to say that to you lol..

That's not a problem, but for sure not my way of working. Now I don't say only my way of work will work, but doing two things at the time isn't helpful. Maybe you should go back to your first initial thing to do. Set memory on stock, and OC'ing your CPU. After that you can try OC'ing your memory, but first priority should be OC your CPU

I totally agree with that, but as I've about run out of options as to why this 3.0ghz wall exists I was starting to look at my memory as a possible cause. No clue how that might factor in mind you, but I'm most definitely stuck at 3.0.

I got away from my OC efforts in the last few days, but should get back to it again tonight or tomorrow. I'm thinking I'll leave my mem at 857mhz since it seems to like that, and the timings set to factory spec (5-5-5-18) then see about lowering my multiplier to 8 and raising the FSB to get me 3.0ghz again. If that works out I'll see if I can break this 3.0 wall that way. If not I guess I'll reside at 3.0 and then focus on getting my memory running as fast as it wants to... then maybe delve into my dual 8800GT's.

More news as it happens.

Tarabass · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by datter

I totally agree with that, but as I've about run out of options as to why this 3.0ghz wall exists I was starting to look at my memory as a possible cause. No clue how that might factor in mind you, but I'm most definitely stuck at 3.0.

I got away from my OC efforts in the last few days, but should get back to it again tonight or tomorrow. I'm thinking I'll leave my mem at 857mhz since it seems to like that, and the timings set to factory spec (5-5-5-18) then see about lowering my multiplier to 8 and raising the FSB to get me 3.0ghz again. If that works out I'll see if I can break this 3.0 wall that way. If not I guess I'll reside at 3.0 and then focus on getting my memory running as fast as it wants to... then maybe delve into my dual 8800GT's.

More news as it happens.

That was what you were doing. Put memory in stock-settings, nb and sb as in first post of this thread and then trying to OC your CPU. Suddenly you come with questions about memory (NP at all) and your are focused on that. In that way i'm not satisfied about all the options you could and should try out m8.

Never the less, i'm saying this to help you out. Not to attack you in a way. Trust me, we all had the frustration ones. Then everything is blurry

datter · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by Tarabass

That was what you were doing. Put memory in stock-settings, nb and sb as in first post of this thread and then trying to OC your CPU. Suddenly you come with questions about memory (NP at all) and your are focused on that. In that way i'm not satisfied about all the options you could and should try out m8.

Never the less, i'm saying this to help you out. Not to attack you in a way. Trust me, we all had the frustration ones. Then everything is blurry

yeah, well I've been getting a bit frustrated with things and in looking for answers initially as to why I'm stuck at 3.0 ended up looking into mem timings and winded up focused on that. Tonight I'm going to put those timings in, then get back to the real heart of the matter.

I'm hoping an 8x multi and higher FSB might prove something, but we'll see. I'll try that and a few other final things and if I can't get anywhere with that stuff then I'll declare myself happy at 3.0 and get into memory and vid card stuff.

You're right, no time to lose focus here.

Paraleyes · 03-15-09

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Originally Posted by ACHILEE5

I got that nick name for the board from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=131452&page=3
At the moment i am useing Bios 1201 on my Plus which is the latest

The settings my board likes are;
400fsb with my 9.5 multi giving me 3.8GHz
400 DRam makeing Ram:FSB Ratio 1:1

You say you're running at 1640, 3.895MHz Right?
And are you at 410 with the ram?
I have tryed 1688 rated FSB giveing me 4.009GHz but it wasn't happy, so i think i will try 1066 ram in there so i can keep FSB:RAN at 1:1 and see what happens

The other thing is, sometime this week i'm going to Novertech and blowing £500 on my rig! So it's the Q9650 or a GTX285ssc

And i think it will be the GFX card i go for, and leave the Quad for a while

No, my memory is unlinked at 1066, but I have been able to run it over 1100. I keep it at 1066 though and never have problems. Yes, my CPU is just short of 3.9GHz. I tried 1644 FSB to get me past 3.9, but it would lock up while gaming now and then.

Dude, your gains would be huge with a new VGA opposed to a quadcore CPU.

Anyone want to take a poll on when Datter will buy some new memory and solve his problems?

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