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Old 03-13-08   #1601 (permalink)
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I stand corrected. I read somewhere that the P35 chipset always came standard with PCI-E 2.0, but I guess whoever said that was wrong.

Nope. You don't want to go more than 110mhz on the PCI-E bus though, or you'll risk data corruption on your HDDs. Also, it almost never increases performance, but go for it and see what happens.
Actually, my understanding is that Nvidia 9-Series GPU's now scale almost linearly with PCI bus speed; the 9600GT wis near 20% faster at PCI=120, etc. This is obviously new, and obviously doesn't help our friend with the 8800gt (like me) but it's interesting. It also probably means that the next generation of 3dmark records will be on Nvidia chipsets running 140mhz PCIE buses.

And Now for My Own Question:

Which settings in the BIOS conform to tRD? Is that "Static read", under the memory timings, or is "Performance Enhancer" hiding this setting behind its silly "Standard/Turbo/Extreme" language.
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okay got my E2180 and DS3l today and im at 2.4Ghz with a 60mm fan on my NB htsink to help cool it

i have Core temp and Real temp both installed , coretemp reports 48C and realtemp will say 58C ... which one should i believe?
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Hey, theres no way im looking thru all 161 pages to find the answer to this...

But im looking to put 8GB of ram into this mobo, will it be stable? And does anyone recommend a certain RAM to put in? :P Im gonna marry it to a Q6600 if it matters.
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Lets try to stay on topic please.

(That is really code for "I'm sick of Crysis jokes, too, and expect to start getting infracted for dragging threads off topic with them".)

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Sorry to say I'll be leaving this group as a member. My DS3L caught fire as you can see in a re-creation picture I took in my sig. I'm upping to an X38 this time around. Those voltage regulators at the top of your MB will get hot, so make sure you have a side or top case fan blowing over them, especially if you take your voltage pretty high.
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Not trying to be a dick but I don't like people being lazy.

Did you know of the handy little tool that lets you search this thread only?


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Hahahaah oh wow i didnt even know! lmao ty
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Lets try to stay on topic please.

(That is really code for "I'm sick of Crysis jokes, too, and expect to start getting infracted for dragging threads off topic with them".)

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Ok, so i searched thread and it didnt reveal anything -- so anyone have any setups that use 8GB of ram and this mobo??
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Lets try to stay on topic please.

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Awesome thread all - many thanks for all the good info and guidance it provides.

OK - I'm a noob as far as Intel based CPUs and mobo's go - this is my first Intel rig. I've been an AMD fan boy from my very first PC purchase until now - but the siren call of the Intel Q6600 was too much for me to resist any longer. The Phenom came up short here when AMD had the chance to do one better, so I voted my my dollars. I'll go back because I'm sure AMD took notice of my action and will get their act back togther

There are a few things with this mobo that still leaves me a bit confused/uncertain after reading (most) of this thread, so I'm looking for some confirmation of what I've got and my settings, readings, etc. and any further guidance if I should be doing something different. In my Sig area I have most of my build identified. I THINK I got a decent Q6600 [G0 stepping, SLACR) (OK, they're ALL decent!) that's running with good voltages and settings and temps. I've had the system running with no hickups for a good 3 weeks now, with an OC to 3.2GHz. But I do see what I believe many have identified as voltage droop, and this is one of the areas that's not clear what voltage settings are good and what's real on what monitoring tools.

My settings are:
  • Robust Graphics Booster - Auto
  • CPU Clock - 8x
  • CPU Host Frequency - 400
  • PCI Express - 100
  • CIA2 - Disabled
  • Performance Enhance - Standard
  • System Mem. Multiplier - 2.00
  • DDR OverVoltage - +0.4v
  • PCIE, FSB, (G)MCH - all Normal
  • CPU Voltage Control - 1.2500
  • Note: Normal CPU Vcore states 1.2375

My RAM is 2x1Gig of Patriot Extreme PC2 6400 that I have set to 4-4-4-12-2T with a 2.2v SPD rating. At these settings I've run MemTest, 3DMark06 and Orthos for over 9 hours and my son has done lots of Battlefield gaming (he loves this rig) without a single failure. Pretty stable.

But, the tools show me funny things with the voltages. I'm running the f8a BIOS, and PC Health Status shows vCore at 1.220v and DDR18V at 2.080v at idle. CPU-Z and Speedfan both align and show vCore at 1.20 and Speedfan shows vRAM at 2.08. Under load (like Orthos), vCore drops down to 1.17v and vRAM down to 2.06. I'm assuming this is the v-droop that is referenced here? So my big questions are am I really running at 3.2GHz with a slightly undervolted core even though the BIOS setting is 1.2500, the BIOS, CPU-Z and Speedfan all show ~1.200v (idle)?? And the droop down to 1.17v is accurate (and what appears to be "normal") for this mobo? If true, then this CPU seems to be a decent performer? Similar for the DDR - if the BIOS and Speedfan numbers are corrent, then running this RAM at this speed and settings is also under spec voltage (again that would make me happy).

Temps may be a question some have. Right now (Orthos has been running a while), the room temp is 70*F. Speedfan shows system temp of 40*C and CPU temp of 33*C (CPU 0,1,2,3 all say 28*C) at idle before I started up Orthos. With Orthos running for a while now the max CPU temp reads 50*C with a rare very short blip to 51* (again Core 0,1,2,3 read 45*C). If Speedfan is correct (?) then I believe my case/fans/CPU cooler/this Q6600 is doing a good job??

I also really like this new Palit 8800GT card. I have it clocked to 705/1005 and with the 3.2GHz CPU OC I get a 3DMark06 score of 14,585. I was blown away by this as my previous rig was an OC'd AMD x2 with OC'd 7900GS with a max score of 5,400!!

Thanks in adance for all comments on my settings and questions and any other setting suggestions you may have. Very happy with performance value of this motherboard/CPU combo!

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I just got my E2180 to 3.0Ghz on the below system 64C full load im happy
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