Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Thread

[Mercyflush64]

Originally Posted by Rpg2

So the problem is heat, am I right?

Are you taking into account what your ambient room temperatures are? Last week we had a couple hot days and my core temps jumped almost 20c. I also had decent fans and cooling inside my case but because I didn't make sure that I had airflow on the outside it made a huge difference once I gave my case some room on all sides. Sometimes it's these simple things that people can overlook and assume it must be hardware involved like I had done.

[Rpg2]

Before I start typing away, thanks for replying!

Originally Posted by crackzattic

man if u lapped it even a little bit it should have helped and with that much intake in your case it should be fine. i have my Vcore up to 1.4875 and my hottest core is 62 with my Tuniq tower. i really dont know why your temps are so high but ya u dont want to get up past 62 then it starts getting to hot. your Vcore must be really low what is it? u can see it in CoreTemp

The DS3L has a well known Vdrop/droop. In the BIOs I set the CPU voltage at the following for these speeds and also load temps (Prime 95 w/ small FFTs):

333x9 @ 1.2625v
350x9 @ 1.1275v 57/51/51/55 (20 minutes of Prime)
360x9 @ 1.31875v 58/52/52/56 (3 hours of Prime)
370x9 @ 1.36250v 60/59/56/56 (8 hours of Prime)
380x9 @ 1.3875v 62/57/57/61 (5 hours of Prime) WITH +.1v to NB and FSB
390x9 @ 1.4375v 67/66/61/61 (10 minutes with Thermal Monitor) WITH +.2v to NB and FSB (Seemed to help keep it stable, ~60% sure. Might be overdoing it though.)

All but the 390x9 voltage should be stable. The 390x9 I never finished testing due to the Thermal Monitor option kicking in.

The reason my temps are high might be because of the Arctic Square. It's a decent cooler, but I'm not really sure how good it is with a C2Q since those give off more heat than a C2D. Also, I might of mounted it wrong or used too much thermal paste (AS 5). It was my first time building a computer and handling this kind of stuff. Luckily, I had a friend help.

Check second section of post for ambient temps. If you guys want me to put voltages after Vdrop/droop, just let me know.

Also, there's a much bigger jump in temps going from 380x9 to 390x9. Most of the stress testing was done in my room on the colder days.

Originally Posted by Mercyflush64

Are you taking into account what your ambient room temperatures are? Last week we had a couple hot days and my core temps jumped almost 20c. I also had decent fans and cooling inside my case but because I didn't make sure that I had airflow on the outside it made a huge difference once I gave my case some room on all sides. Sometimes it's these simple things that people can overlook and assume it must be hardware involved like I had done.

Haha yeah. Last couple days have been a scorcher compared to 2 weeks ago. I live in CA and usually my room temperature is about 20-23C or 65-70F or around there. On the more warmer days it's about 24-26C and 75-80F. Nah, I'm pretty sure it's hardware. Heatsink to be specific.


Let me know if I need to post more information. Sorry for big wall o' words.

[wiggy2k7]

just a quick question im hoping someone can answer, ive got this board and G.Skill PC2-6400 RAM(4-4-3-5). Ive got my processor overclocked to 3.0GHz, would it be better/faster if i bourght some PC2-8500 ram instead of PC2-6400?

It seems like an obveous answer that the 8500 would be better but when i got this board i was told that the G.Skill PC2-6400 HK Series(4-4-3-5) is the fastest/best DDR2 you can buy.

Im thinking of getting another 2GB to take me to 4GB but i would like to know the answer to my question before i go spending my money.

Thanks

[Rpg2]

Originally Posted by wiggy2k7

just a quick question im hoping someone can answer, ive got this board and G.Skill PC2-6400 RAM(4-4-3-5). Ive got my processor overclocked to 3.0GHz, would it be better/faster if i bourght some PC2-8500 ram instead of PC2-6400?

It seems like an obveous answer that the 8500 would be better but when i got this board i was told that the G.Skill PC2-6400 HK Series(4-4-3-5) is the fastest/best DDR2 you can buy.

Im thinking of getting another 2GB to take me to 4GB but i would like to know the answer to my question before i go spending my money.

Thanks

PC2-8500 would probably be faster than PC2-6400. Just be sure not to have several sticks of mix and match RAM. By that I mean don't have sticks of 800Mhz and 1066Mhz together. That will hinder your abilities to overclock or set timings.

[pHreaksYcle]

What does the screen look like in which i should hit F1 for advanced options? I really need to get the Gigabyte screen etc. from coming up, it's annoying.

[crackzattic]

Originally Posted by wiggy2k7

just a quick question im hoping someone can answer, ive got this board and G.Skill PC2-6400 RAM(4-4-3-5). Ive got my processor overclocked to 3.0GHz, would it be better/faster if i bourght some PC2-8500 ram instead of PC2-6400?

It seems like an obveous answer that the 8500 would be better but when i got this board i was told that the G.Skill PC2-6400 HK Series(4-4-3-5) is the fastest/best DDR2 you can buy.

Im thinking of getting another 2GB to take me to 4GB but i would like to know the answer to my question before i go spending my money.

Thanks

yo wiggy man those HK's are awesome i have a set and i bought a set of crucial ballistix 1066 and they sucked so i RMAed them. thing is that there is no 8500 they are just overclocked 6400 chips. The HKs are awesome i loosened my timings to 5-5-5-15 and i overclocked them to 1038 with +5voltage( it may seem like alot but its only 2.14 after vdroop and its 2.19 in bios) in bios and they ran 4hours stable in Prime95. i now run them at 991mhz and fold 24/7 and never have a problem. the HZ's are better but are way more expensive. but hey if u wanna get them ill prob buy those HK's from u i need another set for my AMD board.

[crackzattic]

Originally Posted by Rpg2

Before I start typing away, thanks for replying!



The DS3L has a well known Vdrop/droop. In the BIOs I set the CPU voltage at the following for these speeds and also load temps (Prime 95 w/ small FFTs):

333x9 @ 1.2625v
350x9 @ 1.1275v 57/51/51/55 (20 minutes of Prime)
360x9 @ 1.31875v 58/52/52/56 (3 hours of Prime)
370x9 @ 1.36250v 60/59/56/56 (8 hours of Prime)
380x9 @ 1.3875v 62/57/57/61 (5 hours of Prime) WITH +.1v to NB and FSB
390x9 @ 1.4375v 67/66/61/61 (10 minutes with Thermal Monitor) WITH +.2v to NB and FSB (Seemed to help keep it stable, ~60% sure. Might be overdoing it though.)

All but the 390x9 voltage should be stable. The 390x9 I never finished testing due to the Thermal Monitor option kicking in.

The reason my temps are high might be because of the Arctic Square. It's a decent cooler, but I'm not really sure how good it is with a C2Q since those give off more heat than a C2D. Also, I might of mounted it wrong or used too much thermal paste (AS 5). It was my first time building a computer and handling this kind of stuff. Luckily, I had a friend help.

Check second section of post for ambient temps. If you guys want me to put voltages after Vdrop/droop, just let me know.

Also, there's a much bigger jump in temps going from 380x9 to 390x9. Most of the stress testing was done in my room on the colder days.



Haha yeah. Last couple days have been a scorcher compared to 2 weeks ago. I live in CA and usually my room temperature is about 20-23C or 65-70F or around there. On the more warmer days it's about 24-26C and 75-80F. Nah, I'm pretty sure it's hardware. Heatsink to be specific.


Let me know if I need to post more information. Sorry for big wall o' words.

hey man if u have alot of fans and ur case stays cool u can prob bump ur NB and FSB up to +.2 thats what i did and it helps with stability and maybe lower ur vcore a little. i had mine at +.2 for a long time and never had a problem but i found an old small CPU fan off an pentium3 and screwed that into the heatsink and run it at +.3 now... o and also make sure ur ram is getting enough voltage too now the ram also has a Vdrop i have mine at +.5 and its only at 2.14 underload and with ur muskins u should be able to overclock them alot too

[pHreaksYcle]

Now that my question has been buried

What does the screen look like in which i should hit Ctrl F1 for advanced options? I really need to get the Gigabyte screen etc. from coming up, it's annoying.

I've been hitting them like crazy, nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

[crackzattic]

Originally Posted by pHreaksYcle

Now that my question has been buried



I've been hitting them like crazy, nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

goto bios and press Ctrl +F1 and it unlocks ur memory timings in the Overclocking page.

[Rpg2]

Originally Posted by pHreaksYcle

Now that my question has been buried

I've been hitting them like crazy, nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

Go to BIOs, when you get to the blue screen hit Ctrl+F1. Then go to the M.I.B section and scroll down and you should see memory timings.

Originally Posted by crackzattic

hey man if u have alot of fans and ur case stays cool u can prob bump ur NB and FSB up to +.2 thats what i did and it helps with stability and maybe lower ur vcore a little. i had mine at +.2 for a long time and never had a problem but i found an old small CPU fan off an pentium3 and screwed that into the heatsink and run it at +.3 now... o and also make sure ur ram is getting enough voltage too now the ram also has a Vdrop i have mine at +.5 and its only at 2.14 underload and with ur muskins u should be able to overclock them alot too

I only have the stock 80mm fan from Centurion 5 and the 2 Scythe fans. When I added a 40mm fan to the NB, I heard a crack or something. I thought I cracked the chip or moved the heat sink out of place, but everything's running fine to me.

What the frick? RAM Vdrop? I always thought it was reading the RAM voltage incorrectly or HWmonitor was faulty. Well, I just learned I've been undervolting my RAM for it's EPP. So when I add +.3v, it isn't at 2.1v (since 1.8v should be the standard)? But instead it is at what HWmonitor says it is at?

Sorry if that was confusing. I know I set the RAM voltage at +.3v and HWmonitor says it is at 2v. So there is a .1v Vdrop? If yes, then at +.4v it isn't even close to 2.2v. Correct?

Here's the RAM I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146673

It says for 2.1v-2.2v for the EPP, but HWmonitor says the DDR voltage is at 2v. So again, I'm undervolted by .1v for RAM, right?

If so, then that's great news for me since it passed 3 hours of Memtest at EPP undervolted. This means that I should increase the DDR voltage in the BIOs until HWmonitor reads 2.1-2.2v for DDR voltage, yes? (EX: Setting BIOs RAM voltage all the way to +.7v to reach 2.2v in HWmonitor.)

Sorry for repeated/many questions. I'm learning a lot about this board right now, haha. Thanks again crackzattic!