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Old 11-10-08   #111 (permalink)
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Put the cooler back on and RMA it?

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That is what I would suggest as well. If you got it from an etailer or retailer, they will not remove the heatpipes to warranty it. They will simply switch it.

Even if it goes back to Asus, they will not likely think to take the heatpipes off.
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Not only that, but they've made the heatpipe removable.

(It's still user error, but if it wasn't mounted quite right and pulled that off, all the more reason, since you're supposed to be able to remove the heatpipe on these)

Asus RMA is supposed to be pretty good, but I hear they can take a while.

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On another note, I've finally been able to crack the 1200MHz barrier on my RAM without constant BSODs!

I was so frustrated yesterday that I put the board and RAM up for sale Then I went back and kept trying and finally, after tweaking all weekend, I made some progress so I took the gear off the market.

CAS 7 with tRD 8 isn't bad. For some reason, it will work at 498, but at 500 FSB it won't even post. Maybe I'll try the new bios. If it won't go any further than this, my next goal is to try lowering tRD to 7 and tightening up the RAM.

I'm still waiting for some parts to finish my watercooling, so I'm on stock cooling for now.

Here is a link to bios 0801

0701 did nothing for me.


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Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From Memory Level Up: Auto
FSB Frequency: 498
CPU Ratio Setting: 7
CPU Configuration
C1E Support: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disbled
Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Delay 300ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
PCIE Frequency: 102
DRAM Frequency: 1594Mhz
DRAM Command Rate: 1N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information: 7-8-8-18-5-72-12-6
CAS# Latency: 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 8
RAS# Pre Time: 8
RAS# ACT Time: 18
RAS# To RAS# Delay: 5
REF Cycle Time: 72
WRITE Recovery Time: 12
READ to Pre Time: 6
2nd Information : 9-6-6-4-7-4-7
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 9
WRITE to READ Delay (S): 6
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 6
READ to READ (S): 4
READ to READ (D): 7
WRITE to WRITE (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE (D): 7
3RD Information: 20-8-1-9-9
WRITE to PRE Delay: 20
READ to PRE Delay: 8
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 9
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 9
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled
DRAM Skew Control

DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2: Adv. 250
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1: Normal
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2: Normal
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2: Adv. 250
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1: Normal
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2: Normal


Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 08
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled

EPU II Phase Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.25
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60381
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.41816
CPU GTLVerf (0): +50mv
CPU GTLVerf (1): +50mv
CPU GTLVerf (2): Auto
CPU GTLVerf (3): Auto
NB GTLVerf: +40mV
North Bridge Voltage: 1.66 (Didn't write the exact value, Everest says 1.66v)
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 (Didn't write the exact value, Everest says 2.0v)
NB DDRVref: +12.5mv
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: +50mv
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: +50mv
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.61706
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: 1.11339
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

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A friend of mine is on the verge of giving up as well. He can't get his memory to clock at it's rated speed (1800MHz). He's using a QX9650 and 8GB of RAM.


*edit* The only source I could find that had any success with this board is jmk on asusindependent forums.
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A quad and 8GB of 1800MHz RAM?

I don't think it's going to happen.

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A friend of mine is on the verge of giving up as well. He can't get his memory to clock at it's rated speed (1800MHz). He's using a QX9650 and 8GB of RAM.
Almost certainly he'll have to underclock it. I can hardly imagine what the straps look like at those frequencies but at a halfway decent CPU OC you'll probably wind up having to run 1:2. Not much you can do. To get 1800 on the 1:1 divider you would have to lower the FSB (all the way to 225!) and up the multiplier. Assuming it'll do 1800 at all. And if it's rated for that, I'll assume it.

Probably better to set FSB to 450 and go with the 1:2 divider. Of course, sure, your RAM may be running at 1800MHz, but you still have the FSB bottleneck, so it may as well be running at 900.

Long story short, DDR3 is a waste of money until you go to Core i7. But since you've got it, you may as well use it.

I'd take your FSB as high as it will go, and then choose the highest RAM frequency that will POST, then go into the ASUS Transaction Booster and lower the Performance Level by one until the board hangs at DET DRAM. Then raise it back to the last value that booted. That'll probably get you the biggest noticeable performance gains. (Remember to set it back to Auto if you go changing the strap or FSB again.) After that you can tighten the rest of the timings.

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Keep trying zlojack, it seems like this board are very picky about ram.

Well, I started up my rig with 2x1 Corsair Dominator PC-14400 (XMP) and it booted up just fine and I was surprised when I noticed that it started with the XMP profile instead of the usually 1333 9-9-9. Everything was on auto.

Did install some applications and games and played some with that setting and it was stabil as a rock.

Now it was time to find a good 24/7 gamer setup, I will be back for more.


This is the Cache & Memory Benckmark on auto (the tRD was 6 according to Memset)
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I started with 400 10 4000 1600 666 18 1N tRD5 and it was pretty good but I need 1,70+ for the NB with tRD5 and tRD6 is no good.



Next up was 450 9,5 4275 1800 777 21 1N tRD7 and I think it´s quite awesome as a 24/7 gamer setup.





Tried 475 9 4275 1900 777 21 1T tRD7, awesome bandwidth and latency but I need 2,15v on those ram to be stable, a little to much for my liking, maybe with a little more tweaking I can get below 2,05v.



With 500 8,5 4250 2000 888 24 1N tRD8 I can get 32M stable but not stable when I loop Crysis with Crysis Benchmark Tool or when I play Crysis, maybe with more tweaking it may can be stable.

With my 790i Ultra I could reach 2050 888 24 1T tRC 34 at 2,05v stable with Crysis.

I can run 500 8,5 4250 1600 666 18 1T tRD7

To beat 450 9,5 4275 1800 777 21 1T tRD6 I need something like 2050 - 2060MHz at 888 with ratio 1:2 and I talk about more fps, but if I can get 475 1900 to run below 2,05v I think I go with that setup.

So this is where I stand right now.
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Thumbs up Version 8 bios

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=894393&da=y

The above link is to Bios version 0801, dated 11/07/2008 for the Rampage Extreme.

Flash at your own risk. Use the EZ-Flash Method to minimize a bad flash occurring.

Also there is No Change Log.

They seem to work very nice.
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http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=894393&da=y

The above link is to Bios version 0801, dated 11/07/2008 for the Rampage Extreme.

Flash at your own risk. Use the EZ-Flash Method to minimize a bad flash occurring.

Also there is No Change Log.

They seem to work very nice.
The downside of the new 0801 is that seems to be tuned for the Samsung IC and ASUS seems to have doing that since 0403 so I doubt that mine Micron like this 0801.

I have flash it to BIOS 2 and I gonna give it a go when I´m finished tuning the 0403.
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