Villainstone

You have got to be kidding me... I set the vcore to 1.4 and it droops to 1.296. There is no way that I can go with out the llc. Stability is not possible without LLC enabled, as soon as I stress the CPU fails. I need to set the vcore above 1.4 to even consider OCing.

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Robilar

Actually LLC does not overload chips under stress.

It overloads the chips with constant micro spikes at idle.

I fried an E8400 on an Asus board with LLC back a few months ago. when I sent it in for RMA the tech I spoke to asked what board etc. When I told him the board he asked if I had the LLC enabled in the bios. I indicated I had and asked him if it was an issue.

He said no, just checking....

They RMA'd the chip regardless. that board is still in use (with another E8400) without LLC since I got the chip back 5 months ago.

I won't touch LLC with a 10 foot pole using 45nm chips but each to their own.

By-Tor

If MCH in Bios is the north bridge voltage.

Is ICH the south bridge voltage?

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arjo_reich

Northbridge = MCH = Intel Eaglelake P45
Southbridge = ICH = Intel 82891JR ICH10R

...or just ICH10R

By-Tor

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error10

My question of the day for this board is, will it still reach 500+ FSB with 8GB (4 sticks) of RAM?

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D.J.S.

Thanks for the info on that I knew it was frying them at some point , just didnt realize it was idle , damn thats horrible. Sorry you had learned the hard way but I do beleive its not for 45nm either. Great info.

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arjo_reich

Here's a completely off-topic question...

I noticed that EVEREST Ultimate reported my stock setup as having a 12:8 FSB:RAM ratio. Is there any technical/logical reason that they chose those values instead of reducing it down to it's lowest possible denominator?

Which, in this case, would be the much more commonly noted 3:2 FSB:RAM ratio? ::shrug:: idk just kind of struck me as odd and I actually had to do out the math 8/12*RAM (in Mhz) = (FSB in Mhz)

zlojack

Robilar, I was under the impression that the LLC problem was fixed in subsequent bios revisions.

I'll see if I can find any references.

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arjo_reich

Not with the $10 per GB value ram I'm using, but I'll still try to see how far they can go before puking...