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not really i only have one HDD and it basicalyl sits there and im running Vista HP.. so i should just leave it.. I have another question with about the board. Why do they say that LLC is dangerous with 45nm chips? If you know the voltage limit is around 1.36 and you dont set it higher than that you shouldn't have a prob no matter what nm chip you have? Doesn't load calibration basically calibrates so the voltage under load doesn't drop so much?? then when is off load it goes back to the safely set bios settings.
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Why do they say that LLC is dangerous with 45nm chips? If you know the voltage limit is around 1.36 and you dont set it higher than that you shouldn't have a prob no matter what nm chip you have? Doesn't load calibration basically calibrates so the voltage under load doesn't drop so much?? then when is off load it goes back to the safely set bios settings.
Yes in theory LLC sounds like a good thing to enable. It certainly helps with vDroop on my board (~0.01v) but many members are saying it is dangerous with 45nm chips. When its disabled vDroop is almost 0.1v which is stupidly high.

Id like to be able to enable it but I'm waiting for more info.

Got a 1GHZ overclock OCCT stable. vCore in the BIOS is set ridiculously high in the BIOS (1.425v). This shows as 1.38v idle in Windows and 1.31-1.33v load in Windows. Load temps 62 61 63 63.



EDIT: Found a very good thread discussing LLC over at XS, looks like its much better to run a higher idle vCore and no LLC than leave LLC on which essentially overvolts the core all the time...
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Also note that if you disable AHCI then you lose native command queuing which is one of the nice things that makes SATA so much faster, especially if you're multitasking. (And you are.)

Since I try to boot as seldom as possible, I really just don't worry much about the stupid AHCI BIOS taking its sweet time. Sure it would be nice to lower the timeout, but I'm not going to worry about it too much, not when I click the icon and Firefox is on the screen by the time I've raised my finger.

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What do you guys think of HPET on the Power Management page in BIOS?
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A lot of programs need this (like video players). If you disable it, you could get poorer HD video playback, audio/video desync, etc. No idea why it's listed under Power Management as it's not really a big power-consuming feature.

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EDIT: Found a very good thread discussing LLC over at XS, looks like its much better to run a higher idle vCore and no LLC than leave LLC on which essentially overvolts the core all the time...
I got the impression that it doesn't really matter either way.

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A lot of programs need this (like video players). If you disable it, you could get poorer HD video playback, audio/video desync, etc. No idea why it's listed under Power Management as it's not really a big power-consuming feature.
I'm see no difference in Prime95 so I'll just leave it enabled.
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guys really quick can i use my cpu thermal paste artic silver 5 on the NB, not sure but the mofset doesn't need thermal compound right?
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guys really quick can i use my cpu thermal paste artic silver 5 on the NB, not sure but the mofset doesn't need thermal compound right?
Yes AS5 is fine for the NB, the vReg/mosfets should have come with some sort of thermal padding. Use that as it will expand to fill any gaps between the HS and the individual chips.

K I am really on a fence with the whole LLC thing...

With LLC disabled - which seems to be the best setting for 45nm chips - 3.83GHz is stable but it requires 1.31v (real, load) which is 1.38v idle in Windows when vDroop is taken into consideration and 1.425v in the BIOS!! So to push the chip to 4.0GHz (which I know its capable of at 1.38v load, maybe a little less) with LLC disabled would mean I'd have to run ~1.44v idle in Windows and something retarded like 1.5v in the BIOS. These voltages are uncomfortably high for a 45nm IMO. Now LLC isn't looking too bad.

I need help here people!
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What do you guys think I could get out of my Q9550 with watercooling on this board?
I have a X38 Maximus Formula rite now that can only get my quad to 3.7Ghz.
I want at least 4Ghz but I really want 4.5Ghz (bench runs).
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