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I like HP's more, personally.
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Between the two, that HP one has better, faster specs.
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HP's have thermal issues that cause premature MoBo failures well timed to be just outside warranty. AMD's run hotter than Intel. Asus has a better GPU.

There I said it. I feel better.
My 3 year old DV6000 says otherwise. Only work i've had done on it was having the motherboard was replaced after taking a nasty fall off my bed which caused USB/video issues. That happened after owning the notebook for 2 years.

I would definitely go with the HP regardless of the little extra heat the AMD CPU will put out.
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i will give my two cents...

i have an dv7-1245dx and the amd cpu doesn't run any cooler....like when i am playing a game or folding my cpu is up in the 80-100c range...

i like the fact that hp has a really nice gpu with ddr3 memory to boot....which is a plus...but it doesn't help the fact that....in any os you have ati usually sucks....

i have the rs780 chipset with an integrated hd3200, i know the hp gpu in that is better, in linux there isn't great support in 3d hardware acceleration (what you use to play games)...

and that is for open source radeonhd/radeon drivers....and the close source ones (proprietary ones) are even worse...with sad long releases...i think in my drivers i updated catalyst maybe 3-4 times since i have had the laptop(almost a year)...and on my custom built desktop my nvidia cards get updated drivers once a month most of the time....

another thing is that even though amd cpus might "run cooler" it is only because they don't perform like the intel ones do...

the bottom line i have found with laptops is heat kills...

the one reason for lose of performance is by crappy ati drivers, bad logical stepping amd, and heat... if you don't dissipate heat efficiently you might as well be running on a crappy old laptop because you will hit a wall with lacking performance...

another thing about heat is your laptop won't last as long.....why do you think that laptops that last longer usually don't get as hot...because they either have better efficient ways to dissipate heat..

i don't really know if amd dual cores don't perform well in laptops because i usually stay up with desktop cpus but if amd's laptop cpus are designed with the same way their desktop cpu's are they suck...their stepping isn't as efficient as intel's and intel uses better material...thus better performance...

think of it as using cast iron pistons vs. forge aluminum pistons in a vehicle...the forge aluminum works better because it is better material....lighter and overall better...and the cast iron...are just cheaply made to bring down the price of motorcycles, cars, and trucks....

it all comes down too who uses cheaper material..the cheaper the material the crappier the performance...because the efficiency level of different materials will determent the overall performance of any product...

so what my entire rant was about....is you get what you pay for...
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...their stepping isn't as efficient as intel's and intel uses better material...thus better performance...

think of it as using cast iron pistons vs. forge aluminum pistons in a vehicle...the forge aluminum works better because it is better material....lighter and overall better...and the cast iron...are just cheaply made to bring down the price of motorcycles, cars, and trucks....

it all comes down too who uses cheaper material..the cheaper the material the crappier the performance...because the efficiency level of different materials will determent the overall performance of any product...
Isin't this total bull****?

Cost of materials in processor making is minimal. I am quite sure both use best possible materials. What might differ is that one or another has better manufacturing process but surely one doesn't use cheaper material to cut costs.
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i am not just talking about cpu's but like every bit of the laptop overall....if anything say like a heatsink isn't as great as someone else because it doesn't use enough copper or what not then wouldn't it be bad material.... or use silver thermal/ceramic paste then just run of the mill junk??? also better fans....
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Asus.

Have you guys seen those Asus laptops? BEAST!
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Asus. I am biased though. i had an HP that was pure garbage

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I, personally, would go Asus, if only to avoid the bloatware HP puts on their computers. Not to mention I personally like more hard drive space, regardless of read speed.
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I wouldn't go with HP for heat reasons. Laptops tend to die and motherboards are shot... Not happy with HP...
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