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Old 06-22-08   #1 (permalink)
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How the hell do you install drivers? I've been trying for two days now and I can't seem to figure it out. When I click on the install file I get 3 options, terminal, display, and run.terminal and run don't do anything and Display just shows me coding.

Couldn't they have made it a a little simpler to install a driver? I'm trying to install the creative X-fi xtreme gamer drivers. Creative has beta drivers on their site.
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Save yourself some headaches and rip that card out. Seriously, you're better of running onboard sound.
The driver from Creative is a nightmare to install (and only "sometimes" works). That same beta driver has already been repackaged for OSS, however, so you may want to give that a shot:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571656

There is no ALSA driver yet, so if you depend on it you may end up screwing your sound system a bit if you do the above, unless you have something like Pulsaudio which takes care of all your sound extensions (Ubuntu Hardy uses it, as well as OpenSuse 11).
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I think Melcar is right, you might be stuck with onboard sound, or you might be able to use it via third party drivers (if there are any), but these drivers are usually mediocre.

You should blame Creative -- their lack of Linux support for the x-fi xtreme gamer is a well known topic on many Linux forums, at least this was the case just a few months ago. Apparently, Creative released the beta drivers and promised forthcoming finalized drivers, but is way behind schedule. The drivers being beta also probably explains why your distro doesn't have them in the repositories.

Unless you know exactly what you're doing, it is best to stick with installing apps from the offical repos. Otherwise you can bork your entire OS. A lot of distros will not help troubleshoot if they find out you installed apps not found in the repos. If the drivers are not in the repos, you could always request that someone package it and put it there. This way, you wont have to pull your hair out trying to figure it out.

This is just a case of you having the wrong hardware at the wrong time. It sucks, I know. Hopefully, Creative will get their act together soon enough.
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How the hell do you install drivers? I've been trying for two days now and I can't seem to figure it out. When I click on the install file I get 3 options, terminal, display, and run.terminal and run don't do anything and Display just shows me coding.

Couldn't they have made it a a little simpler to install a driver? I'm trying to install the creative X-fi xtreme gamer drivers. Creative has beta drivers on their site.

I agree with the above posts. However, what kind of file is it? You didn't download a windows file (.exe etc) did you?
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I agree with the above posts. However, what kind of file is it? You didn't download a windows file (.exe etc) did you?
No i know enough that linux and windows drivers arent the same. I used the linux creative drivers.

As for onboard, sigmatel drivers suck so bad in windows just getting them to work, I dont want to imagine the nightmare i will have in linux for them.
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You have to replace the sound system from alsa to oss to use Creative cards. If you're a beginner, I wouldn't advise you. But if you try really hard it should work, because it's not really a big deal.
First of all, you have to uninstall your current sound system - alsa. To do so, open your package manager (synaptics) and remove all the packages related to alsa.
The second step is to install OSS. Go to http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi and select the binary package that suits your distro. DEB for Debian and Ubuntu, RPM for SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva. Your package manager should handle the package.
Finally, install the drivers from Creative. Put them in your home folder and extract the archive. There sould be one big file (the one you can't install, I guess). Open your terminal and type 'ls'. You'll get se the content of the home folder. Now execute 'chmod +x that_big_file_name', this will make it executable. Type 'sudo ./that_big_file_name', the installation process should begin.
BUT! There is a big chance that ubuntu (suse, fedora, or any binary distro) kernel doesn't have OSS support, if so you won't get any result and the only way to get your drivers to work will be to recompile the kernel.

Update: I noticed the last build of OSS has support for Creative X+Fi already, so you can skip the last part, just remove alsa an install oss.

P.S: If you want OSS support out of the box, just install FreeBSD. You'll only have to update the version. Can be hard for you to install, but it will be a great experience.
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