Flatliner

just finishing up downloading iso's 1, 2, and 3. curious if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, or even just wants to give me a heads up prior to installing/wasting? 3 blank discs.

also, please comment on FreeBSD if you have used it, or are using it, as i would like to hear what peoples opinions are on it.

Thanks,
-Flatliner

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yawnbox

i *tried* installing it once... it's not easy like an Ubuntu install. Make sure you have good directions.

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First of all read something about FreeBSD and its "ports" system. If you want an up-to-date system, just download the bootonly image (about 30MB) and prepare for a long night. In this case you'll download the base and kernel over the netinstall, leave the rest alone. I'll try to describe shortly the installation process.
1. Boot and select some basic stuff like country and keyboard layout.
2. Partition the HDD.
3. Select things to install (base, kernel, man). Don't install the ports, it is useless now.
4. Configure the internet connection.
5. Wait until it downloads and installs everything.
6. Configure the system using the dialogs that appear. On this stage the basic installation is complete. The next part is to build a nice system.
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7. Boot into your fresh FreeBSD system.
8. Login (root)
9. Download the ports using
10. Upgrade the system. For this you'll need portupgrade.
to upgrade:
11. Install some basic stuff like bash and nano. To change the shell use 'chsh' command.
12. Install X11, but before configure the drivers:
when you'll execute 'make config' a dialog will appear. Select all your devices, and unselect the ones that you don't have. Now install X11:
Now install a DE or WM and all the soft you need using ports. It's really easy.
Good luck!

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Cait Sith Cat

FreeBSD is pretty cool, though I'd think of it more as a server OS. Install is similar to any other text based installer. choose the package set you want (X-User, I'd think?) and install the ports system. However, for large programs, you would probably want to use packages. (Packages are binary, so you don't have to compile.) Packages are just as easy to use as ports.

I did use FBSD a while back. The book I used to learn FreeBSD was "FreeBSD 6 Unleashed". They might have one out for 7 by now. "Absolute FreeBSD" is one that is recommended a lot.

Of course, I use and enjoy Ubuntu.

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mkdir

Bad idea, to update the binary packages you have to wait for the next release.

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dangerousHobo

It is a very nice OS. I prefer it more for a server OS though then for the desktop. It can definitely handle the desktop though. I just prefer Arch on my desktop.

My suggestion is don't download the ports from the cd. Do what mkdir said and do it after the install with portsnap. So you can start out fresh. And yeah prepare to spend several hours letting it download and then configuring.

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The Hundred Gunner

I wish I could comment, but that beezy just never wanted to install on any of my computers. I always get that "strange incompatibility" that just won't let me either install or boot.

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Flatliner

not entirely sure what did or omitted to do...but the install completed, finished adding the extra packages, then it brought up a black login screen, so i logged in but couldnt quite figure out how to bring up the DE..then for one reason or another my vista partition was conky in the boot manager, so i ended up having to load up my ubuntu livecd and do some tinkering around to get my ethernet working, then reload my mbr to get back to where i am now - unhappily stuck in vista lol.

ill backup some files and give it another go.

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The Hundred Gunner

I don't think FreeBSD boots with X by default. I think you have to use startx or initx (or whatever that init- command is to get X up). You might even have to download X with Ports yourself, and then do your own configuration.

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mkdir

If you installed X11 and a DE/WM, write its executable in ~/.xinitrc. Here is an example of the file:
Now just execute 'startx'.

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