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Old 07-16-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Use Ntfs-3g!!!

there is no reason to use a "media" partition when dual booting (unless your trying to use a less sain File system for linux)
http://www.fs-driver.org/ -perfect read/write support for ext3 in windows
http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ -perfect read/write support for ntfs in linux

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replace <windows partition> with the partition that windows is on (I.E. sda1 hdb2 )
then install http://www.fs-driver.org/
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ntfs is a horrible filesystem. I use an ext3 driver for windows to see my media and try to avoid having linux deal with ntfs at all.

The commands you posted need a bit of explanation. Is <windows partition> supposed to be something like sda1 or sdb2? If so, mounting the partition at /media/sda1 isn't exactly a good naming convention. Also, I prefer to use a partition's UUID in fstab. If you disconnect/reconnect harddrives the path in /dev usually changes. Relying on that path isn't a great idea
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ntfs is a horrible filesystem. I use an ext3 driver for windows to see my media and try to avoid having linux deal with ntfs at all.

The commands you posted need a bit of explanation. Is <windows partition> supposed to be something like sda1 or sdb2? If so, mounting the partition at /media/sda1 isn't exactly a good naming convention. Also, I prefer to use a partition's UUID in fstab. If you disconnect/reconnect harddrives the path in /dev usually changes. Relying on that path isn't a great idea
ntfs is far better for Harddrives than fat32
also why are you hotplugging harddrives?
devices appear in the order of there bus ex: SATA@0 -> sda SATA@2 -> sdb USB@0 ->sdc

unless the device was hotplugged, something I'm not a fan of
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I second rabidgnome. NTFS is a terrible file system when compared to ext3, Reiser, XFS, or other typical Linux journaling file systems.

One example: have you ever heard of anyone "defragging" their Linux box? No, you haven't. Why not? Because, unlike NTFS, old ext3 files don't get fragmented all over the hard drive. Everyone, even M$, knows this is a major problem with both FAT32 and NTFS. It's a pretty big flaw.

There are many other advantages of ext3 -- for one it is usually faster in most applications.

Sorry, I see no advantages in using NTFS, especially if you intend to put Linux on it.
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ntfs is far better for Harddrives than fat32
also why are you hotplugging harddrives?
devices appear in the order of there bus ex: SATA@0 -> sda SATA@2 -> sdb USB@0 ->sdc

unless the device was hotplugged, something I'm not a fan of
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Sorry, I see no advantages in using NTFS, especially if you intend to put Linux on it.
I don't think anyone suggested NTFS usage, but if you NEED to access an ntfs volume from linux, this would be the way to do it.
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ntfs is far better for Harddrives than fat32
also why are you hotplugging harddrives?
devices appear in the order of there bus ex: SATA@0 -> sda SATA@2 -> sdb USB@0 ->sdc

unless the device was hotplugged, something I'm not a fan of
I was saying use ext3 - I was absolutely not suggesting fat32

I've also had drive paths change themselves (even the SATA ones) just from removing/adding an external drive.
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I was saying use ext3 - I was absolutely not suggesting fat32

I've also had drive paths change themselves (even the SATA ones) just from removing/adding an external drive.
Definitely second the usage of UUIDs. the path is great for something quick and dirty (and temporary), but an 'important' volume shouldn't use /dev/hdXX
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Linux can access the ntfs system anyway. It's just a matter of mounting it.
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