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Old 09-17-09   #11 (permalink)
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My job requires me to use Solaris 8 in KDE. I don't actually like KDE or even UNIX, really.
Eww Solaris. I'd use KDE before I used that.

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Eww Solaris. I'd use KDE before I used that.
What's your objection to Solaris? It is very similar and by default uses Gnome (if memory serves). To me *nix is *nix; I feel just as much at home in Solaris as I do in Linux or BSD or any other (though there are changes, for the most part, they are not extreme).

I remember reading that KDE 4 uses 39% less resources than KDE3. I don't think that any modern hardware will see a significant quantifiable change in speed between Gnome and KDE. As for looks, with a little work, KDE can look like Gnome and vice-versa, so there is little difference to me.
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What's your objection to Solaris? It is very similar and by default uses Gnome (if memory serves). To me *nix is *nix; I feel just as much at home in Solaris as I do in Linux or BSD or any other (though there are changes, for the most part, they are not extreme).

I remember reading that KDE 4 uses 39% less resources than KDE3. I don't think that any modern hardware will see a significant quantifiable change in speed between Gnome and KDE. As for looks, with a little work, KDE can look like Gnome and vice-versa, so there is little difference to me.
I tried it, didn't like it (it didn't like me either). I still have that disk they sent me around here somewhere though...

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I don't have anything against Solaris, other than it's very poor performance as a desktop OS - but it was never intended for it.

I don't really have a preference for KDE or GNOME - KDE is a bit bloatier, but there are many more apps out there for it. The chances of having GNOME, and not relying on Qt for something, are minimal. Plus, GNOME can be just as bloaty as KDE, especially if you consider compositing effects.

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Alpha 5 has KDE 4.3 and I just don't get why people like it. Linux is supposed to be about usability and customization, but KDE has neither.
I disagree. The plasmoids allow you to have a large number of desktop widgets to chose from. In Gnome, you have to install 3rd party apps to get these and they aren't nearly as good. You can also change the desktop theme easily by right clicking on the desktop. There should be numerous ones already built in. As for KDE-Look, most of the themes should work without having to install anything extra.

All you have to do is go to the KDE settings and there is every aspect of your desktop waiting to be configured. It's all pretty simple and intuitive to me.

KDE has desktop compositing and effects built in. With Gnome you have to use a third party app: Compiz-fusion.

As for memory, I would say KDE uses about the same amount of RAM as Gnome in my experience. I don't notice a difference at all. KDE 4 seems to be even less of a memory hog than 3.5.

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Its full of really great ideas, but they are just poorly implemented. Everything seems to be big and flashy, but its painful trying to navigate through the system. Its like I'm using some kind of FisherPrice computer. The start menu looks nice, but they are sacrificing looks for ease of access, and unless you pin everything to your favourites its just plain cumbersome.
I totally agree about the start menu: it is a ***** to navigate. You can easily remedy this by right clicking on the start icon and clicking "switch to classic view." That's the first thing I do when I install a KDE distro.

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I think it is faster than 3.5 and uses less memory. All in all KDE has improved, and that says a lot because 3.5 was pretty damn good. Yeah there are a few kinks to work out, but overall it's my favorite DE.
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I like KDE and it's my desktop of choice
openSuse 11.1 with KDE 3.5.10
I also have KDE 4.2 installed, it's okay. I never could get use to Gnome, it didn't fell as comfortable and reminded me of OSX.

KDE 4.3 is still unstable and not ready for the desktop as far as I'm concerned.
But having choices is what it is all about, if someone doesn't like KDE there is Gnome, don't like Gnome there's alot more to choose from.

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interesting post...

I do like a lot of KDE applications (dolphin, ktorrent, k9copy, konsole, yakuake) , and the plasma-desktop is high in sugar, but I really don't like the full-blown KDE environment. Even with a kdemod-minimal installation, after a few weeks, it just felt too controlled.

So right now I still have both major DE's installed... but I'm in a standalone Compiz/Emerald environment and using a mix of QT and GTK apps. I have qtcurve installed to keep the appearances of both application sets more uniform.
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I disagree. The plasmoids allow you to have a large number of desktop widgets to chose from. In Gnome, you have to install 3rd party apps to get these and they aren't nearly as good. You can also change the desktop theme easily by right clicking on the desktop. There should be numerous ones already built in. As for KDE-Look, most of the themes should work without having to install anything extra.

All you have to do is go to the KDE settings and there is every aspect of your desktop waiting to be configured. It's all pretty simple and intuitive to me.

KDE has desktop compositing and effects built in. With Gnome you have to use a third party app: Compiz-fusion.

As for memory, I would say KDE uses about the same amount of RAM as Gnome in my experience. I don't notice a difference at all. KDE 4 seems to be even less of a memory hog than 3.5.



I totally agree about the start menu: it is a ***** to navigate. You can easily remedy this by right clicking on the start icon and clicking "switch to classic view." That's the first thing I do when I install a KDE distro.



I think it is faster than 3.5 and uses less memory. All in all KDE has improved, and that says a lot because 3.5 was pretty damn good. Yeah there are a few kinks to work out, but overall it's my favorite DE.
I think it might be better with a larger screen, but I only have 1440x900 in real estate so every pixel counts.

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I think the reason people like KDE so much is because KDE is a "better" desktop. Face it, KDE has all the stuff that makes an easy to use feature rich desktop. This is not saying that GNOME is crap, but just that KDE has what people expect on a desktop environment.
I personally prefer GNOME and how it works. I prefer its simplicity and no-nonsense approach to user interfaces. I enjoy working with it more than with any other environment. In GNOME it's much easier to work with the internals of the environment (and its corresponding applications) than with KDE.
I do take issue with where the project is heading though. GNOME Shell and the love affair with mono are a big turn off. In contrast, KDE4 seems to be heading in all the right directions.

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I dont venture outside of tiled wm, and if I do it's openbox.

I think a lot of DE require too many steps to get things done, and i hate floating windows.

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