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Old 11-14-07   #1 (permalink)
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Default 8800GT vRAM discussion

Most of us 8800GT owners have heard of this warning:
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Originally Posted by jonnyGURU
2000MHz memory OC is easy with this card BUT the overclock won't hold long term.

The memory is actually 2GHz, but the interface can't handle the speed for long periods. This has been tested by Nvidia, their OEM's and some partners over several weeks. The card will run like a bat out of hell for a while and then suffers irrepairable damage.

Just look at XFX. These guys overclock anything regardless of yield (I guess they don't take the overhead of support into account when they sell stuff) and they're only at 1950MHz on their highest OC card (Alpha Dog).

I would only crank the memory up to 2GHz plus to get a killer benchmark and then crank it back down to 1900~1950MHz for day to day use.
I realise that jonnyGURU is a very respectable member in the computer community, but somehow, I don't belive that overclocking the RAM will hurt it.
Because of this, I decided to do some digging around to see both sides of this statement, and here's what I found:

Reasoning that overclocking the vRAM may be harmful:
* Widely known jonnyGURU made the statement
* The PCB may be made of a lesser quality material
* The memory is actually 2GHz, but the interface can't handle the speed for long periods.
* The interface is the one that will fail, not the ram
*"this was stripped down from a 'beefier' build.Its intentionally missing a few things that could get it humming along at likely 800/2k SP/and ram @ higher.And again its obviously more then just voltage thats needed.Its a really great platform,that was designed to meet a certain price point,as Nvidia said,its price is a main 'feature'.Your not going to get GTX/ULTRA pcb/parts for GT cost."

Reasoning that overclocking the vRAM is not harmful at stock volts:
* There is no voltage increase, therefore not much more extra heat
* A 10% overclock should be well within the saftey factor
* There are cards that run the mem at 2000Mhz at stock( eVGA SSC)
* A mod on the eVGA forums posted : "Also, the interface is designed to have some flexibility, and we have no evidence that long term use of 2GHz memory clocks cause failures if ran at the default VMem."

Do you think we should heed jonnyGURU's warning? or should we boldly continue to OC to the MAX? after all, what else is RMA for?
Discuss.
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I'd like to see someone try it i would myself but i just made this build and wont have money anytime soon and if i kill this card il have to wait 3weeks for a RMA one lol
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I'd like to see someone try it i would myself but i just made this build and wont have money anytime soon and if i kill this card il have to wait 3weeks for a RMA one lol
i have been able to hit 1053 as my max, but only left it there for a quick 3dmark run, then bumped it back down to 975....its not like "BOOM you card is dead" it takes some time according to him
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What program do you use rivatuner? I loved ATiTool but sadly doesent work
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What program do you use rivatuner? I loved ATiTool but sadly doesent work
i use rivatuner....but Atitool works for me
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If EVGA runs the card's VRAM @ 2GHz, then I don't see a problem. Surely going over 2GHz won't just break it.

I don't understand how the "interface" will break when you clock the VRAM to 2GHz or higher. Doesn't make any sense. Also, why is this the first card I've ever heard of to do this?

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eVGA has a card overclocked to 2ghz. They aren't stupid. They wont do it if the card will take damage because of the overclock.

I call this BS.

Sure, its never good to overclock, but it wont kill the card.
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Don't worry about the memory, some folks over at Xtremesystems volt modded their cards, givin the vRAM significantly more voltage that stock, even up to dangerous levels only yielded <1100 mhz, in fact the had to bump the voltage up (I think) .3 v to get it near low - mid 1000 mhz.

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