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Old 10-10-08   #51 (permalink)
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show some proof please. if ur statement is true, id like to see it with some factual proof

anyway, heres what i got, it shows that the 4850cf setup isnt even that great. ive known so many people who regret getting 4850 cf setup because they noticed its only about a 20% increase from a single. thats not great in terms of scaling. i have to admit, a 4850 smashes the 8800gt by means of single card performance, but once you compare the CF vs SLI, the 8800gt sli is far more efficient with the 2nd card. i think the money is more worth it with an 8800gt sli set up

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...50-AA,799.html

i still dont see what you mean when you said " turn on AA ". that graph clearly shows that even under AA, the 8800gt sli still shines. i dont see it " smashing it" in fact i see it crying
no just no,tom's charts were inaccurate(crap) before,are so now and will remain,their sum of 1680x1050 AA fps results is just a gross misrepresentation of SLI and CF performances.
the link you gave shows a gtx280 ahead of gtx280 SLI at 1680x1050,cpu bottleneck or borked drivers comes to my mind,
comparing cod4 4850 CF scaling from Tom's and other sites,

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...-v1-6,745.html

a 17fps increase for tom's which is around 20% scaling,


compared to sites that show near about 100% scaling for CF in cod4
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-at...-powercolor/17

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-11.html

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showd...341&p=20&cp=17


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i think that graph just shows that the 280 does not shine in tri sli.

tri sli is rarely used and is definitely not improved in scaling . the extra gains from the 3rd card is almost nothing.
the gtx280 tri sli does scale,you just need cpu power for it,though i didn't see tom's benching system but i am guessing they used a stock c2d for their tests,

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...review-test/13

SLI and CF systems need higher clocked cpus at low resolutions like 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 for good scaling.your friends getting 20% increase with a 4850 CF system need to do some tweaking for the CF reviews show that they should be getting much more.

edit:wow,now that i saw all of their becnhmarks,they had CF scaling in only 3 games out of 8,not even in HL2ep2,thats pathetic to say the least.
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no just no,tom's charts were inaccurate(crap) before,are so now and will remain,their sum of 1680x1050 AA fps results is just a gross misrepresentation of SLI and CF performances.
the link you gave shows a gtx280 ahead of gtx280 SLI at 1680x1050,cpu bottleneck or borked drivers comes to my mind,
comparing cod4 4850 CF scaling from Tom's and other sites,

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...-v1-6,745.html

a 17fps increase for tom's which is around 20% scaling,


compared to sites that show near about 100% scaling for CF in cod4
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-at...-powercolor/17

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-11.html

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showd...341&p=20&cp=17




the gtx280 tri sli does scale,you just need cpu power for it,though i didn't see tom's benching system but i am guessing they used a stock c2d for their tests,

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...review-test/13

SLI and CF systems need higher clocked cpus at low resolutions like 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 for good scaling.your friends getting 20% increase with a 4850 CF system need to do some tweaking for the CF reviews show that they should be getting much more.

edit:wow,now that i saw all of their becnhmarks,they had CF scaling in only 3 games out of 8,not even in HL2ep2,thats pathetic to say the least.
you answered all of what i wanted to say all along. i do know that higher clocks on the cpu yields better scaling on cf/sli. i just noted that in a lot of games, that the scaling is terrible with the 4850cf, like u said, 3/8 games were the only exceptions.

i just think it all comes down to what games would you want cf /sli to kick in. its all in the matter of preference as to what games would you want your crossfire scaling/sli scaling to kick in. in my perspective, i wouldnt pay over 300 just to see about a 100% scaling in only a couple of games. especially when i wont see a difference between 80 fps and 120 fps
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Ok, if it means soo much to you... The 4850 just flat out smokes the 8800GT...

Wow.... Considering the topic started as "9600GT SLI vs 8800GT SLI" I dont see what the big deal is anyway....

for another 50$ card it should be a better performer... Hey, why not just XF a couple 4870X2's?

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Ok, if it means soo much to you... The 4850 just flat out smokes the 8800GT...

Wow.... Considering the topic started as "9600GT SLI vs 8800GT SLI" I dont see what the big deal is anyway....

for another 50$ card it should be a better performer... Hey, why not just XF a couple 4870X2's?

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I heard that a single 9600gt is not as good as a single 8800gt but when you SLI them 9600gt's are much better
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you answered all of what i wanted to say all along. i do know that higher clocks on the cpu yields better scaling on cf/sli. i just noted that in a lot of games, that the scaling is terrible with the 4850cf, like u said, 3/8 games were the only exceptions.

i just think it all comes down to what games would you want cf /sli to kick in. its all in the matter of preference as to what games would you want your crossfire scaling/sli scaling to kick in. in my perspective, i wouldnt pay over 300 just to see about a 100% scaling in only a couple of games. especially when i wont see a difference between 80 fps and 120 fps
lol i didn't say the CF scaling is terrible,don't put words in my mouth but that the Tom's charts that you used to compare 8800gt sli and 4850CF are terrible,since other(reputable) reviews show CF scaling in the same games that Tom's tested at the same resolution while Tom's show no CF scaling or the CF performance drop below that of a single card.simply put,epic fail for Tom's.
as for cpu speed its generally true for any graphics card and doesn't imply the CF and SLI setups,i am having a hard time distinguishing between my current 4850 and older 3870 at 1024x768 res but i am sure i would notice the differences much more when i get back to my 20'' screen .
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Tom's tested at the same resolution while Tom's show no CF scaling or the CF performance drop below that of a single card.simply put,epic fail for Tom's.
coulda maybe, just possibly been driver related too... maybe.....

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