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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #11 (permalink)
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As someone who works for a consulting company, I admire their ability to say exactly nothing, at great length, without promising anything or naming any real sources, while extensively referencing other people who also aren't saying anything.
I'm glad I am not the only person who was thinking that exact thing.
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As someone who works for a consulting company, I admire their ability to say exactly nothing, at great length, without promising anything or naming any real sources, while extensively referencing other people who also aren't saying anything.
Exactly.


CLIFFS: "Nvidia said November/December but we think maybe January. But maybe not"

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I'm betting a paper launch in December, and then have it demoed in January. I don't know what HardOCP is smoking to make claims of launch in March and possibly Q2, Nvidia has plenty of time to get the A2 silicon out the door for general availability in February. In fact there will likely be small quantities circulating even before that.
Uh, even "paper" launches mean that some product is circulating through channels. It just means that availability is so low that few people other than OEMs can get a card.

You can't have ANY launch, paper or otherwise, without an actual product to move.

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The longer Nvidia takes, the more impatient people become to get a slice of next gen powwwwwwwwa....

The more new customers ATI gets

LOADS of die hard Nvidia fans I know have said they wouldn't mind waiting till Xmas to get Fermi but no longer, looks like they'll all be getting ATI cards for xmas then
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You can't have ANY launch, paper or otherwise, without an actual product to move.
Why not? It's very possible... Glue together a PCB and show the product. Voila, you just did a conference without having any card available. If Nvidia really had anything, we would start to see leaks in benchmarks, pictures, etc... just like with the 5970 and even 5870.
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But a conference isn't a launch. It's foreplay.
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When does ATI release Radeon HD6K? Even if GT300 raises hell, ATI will be close to HD6K by the time it actually makes an impact. If they keep releasing every 6 months like that have been.
I'd vote for a refresh of the 5870 to counter Fermi even with the 6 series coming so close. Very similar to the 4890 being so close to the 5 series that they didn't bother with an X2 version.

2900xt May/June 2007 >> 3870 Oct/Nov 2007

4870 May/June 2008 >> 4890 March/April 2009

5870 Sept/Oct 2009 >> 5???? March/April 2010 (refresh to counter Fermi???)

6XXX series Sept/Oct 2010*



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At this rate fermi will have to be twice to three times as fast as ati's top card. By March the 6000 series will be on the horizon. I know this is all speculation though.
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I'd vote for a refresh of the 5870 to counter Fermi even with the 6 series coming so close. Very similar to the 4890 being so close to the 5 series that they didn't bother with an X2 version.

2900xt May/June 2007 >> 3870 Oct/Nov 2007

4870 May/June 2008 >> 4890 March/April 2009

5870 Sept/Oct 2009 >> 5???? March/April 2010 (refresh to counter Fermi???)

6XXX series Sept/Oct 2010*



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6K more like Q1 or Q2 2011.

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Gonna go with the 5980 it looks like. I was hoping that this was coming out before christmas but i'm not waiting until Q1 2010 for a *maybe*. If they could give some type of performance charts, i'd be more willing to wait.. but theres just no point waiting 3 months for a card that "may" beat the 5980...

If you mean the 5970 then you are the same as me. Waiting to see both cards made sense but I've already struggled holding off buying a 5870 and there is no way I'll be able to resist the 5970 with the gt300 so far out still
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6K more like Q1 or Q2 2011.
Yeah, I think the key thing to remember with tech is that most companies only want to innovate as far as they have to. Why lay all your cards on the table when your previous hand is raking in the cash?

If Nvidia fails to come out with anything that dominates the 5-series, you will probably only see a refresh from ATI. If they have a real contender, you might see an aggressive push from ATI to get another series out.

I would imagine that, given the market domination ATI will have over the next 2-2.5 months, that ATI would be more willing to refine their process and hit NVIDIA with lower prices on existing product than release a new line.

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