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Old 01-12-09   #1001 (permalink)
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After I give you mad props you call me a "tin foil hat wearer"? That is especially egregious when everyone knows you have to use Mu Metal for optimum results. That and a whole house Faraday Cage and you're at least safe from the majority of aliens and MIBs. Flame me again and If I ever get these voices out of my head I may just have to find pictures of yer sister I can spread all over 0day BBS's. Heheh!

Seriously though you guys worrying about uninstall need to check out "Checkinstall" as it creates either an rpm, a deb or a slackpack before it installs and thus uses the systems own package manager to handle both install and uninstall. My system has at least 80% of newly installed programs done from source (and btw to the Quantum flamer I've never yet used fprot since Sourceforge, Freshmeat, and even Download.com and Softpedia are reliable especially with Linux tarballs) and not only is it not a nightmare, it's nearly a wet dream. I LOVE my Slackware system. All it takes is a couple of custom installs viewing the config options you miss in packages somebody else built and you'd be sold too. It's just worth it.

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After I give you mad props you call me a "tin foil hat wearer"? That is especially egregious when everyone knows you have to use Mu Metal for optimum results. That and a whole house Faraday Cage and you're at least safe from the majority of aliens and MIBs. Flame me again and If I ever get these voices out of my head I may just have to find pictures of yer sister I can spread all over 0day BBS's. Heheh!

Seriously though you guys worrying about uninstall need to check out "Checkinstall" as it creates either an rpm, a deb or a slackpack before it installs and thus uses the systems own package manager to handle both install and uninstall. My system has at least 80% of newly installed programs done from source (and btw to the Quantum flamer I've never yet used fprot since Sourceforge, Freshmeat, and even Download.com and Softpedia are reliable especially with Linux tarballs) and not only is it not a nightmare, it's nearly a wet dream. I LOVE my Slackware system. All it takes is a couple of custom installs viewing the config options you miss in packages somebody else built and you'd be sold too. It's just worth it.

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Or just run Arch and use the ABS/AUR.

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I did Latty's Linux Challenge and I now run Linux!

I'm only on my first day, but everything I saw and did were things related to the issues I had with vista and XP. If a version of Linux could come out that would play games... Maybe if I win the power ball, I'll start development for Games for Linux.
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The last I read, back in summer 2008, UT3 native linux client was still in the works. It has been delayed forever but as I said last I heard they were still committed. Anybody got news more recent than august 2008?
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Not because of this thread, but I setup an Ubuntu server box with ksh/bash to get more hands on experience besides what we do at work. (HP-UX, AIX, and some Linux, on top of the Windows server)

Very similar to our ksh shell on HP-UX. (Closest I could find anyway, and I'm not shelling out 3 grand for an outdated HP-UX terminal)
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I'm curious if we can ever expect a linux that has game support.
I did try linux, but it simply left me dissapointed for the fact i couldn't play every game i wanted.

Ok there is dual boot, but that just makes it the same as running vista only.

i'm sure alot of people would move to linux, or at least try linux, if it had game support.
Hell, it something that should have happend a long time ago. It would end the M$'s monopoly on OS prices.
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I'm curious if we can ever expect a linux that has game support.
I did try linux, but it simply left me dissapointed for the fact i couldn't play every game i wanted.

Ok there is dual boot, but that just makes it the same as running vista only.

i'm sure alot of people would move to linux, or at least try linux, if it had game support.
Hell, it something that should have happend a long time ago. It would end the M$'s monopoly on OS prices.
It has game support. A good number of free games.

But very few native games that are big titles. UT2k4 is one though. UT3 is supposed to get native linux support. Along with Valve games and Steam.
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Gaming under Linux would be a great thing, but it's the chicken and the egg paradox.

For developers to develop games for Linux, they want more users.
For users to run Linux, they want games.

Someone has to go first.
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Gaming under Linux would be a great thing, but it's the chicken and the egg paradox.

For developers to develop games for Linux, they want more users.
For users to run Linux, they want games.

Someone has to go first.
I'd love to see indie game devs go into it and actually do well and make money from it.

Their is an un-tapped market in the Linux/Gamer side of things. But thats cause quality games would most likely be enjoyed. Because of the smarter and more mature community.
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I use Debian for all my servers. I LOVE Debian's ease of installation and package consistency. Also, I often install Ubuntu/Xubuntu on older laptops to bring back thier usefullness. I find Linux however heavely lacking in the standard department. This is why games are not made for Linux like they are for Windows (not that it matters to me). Also, hardware manufactures have to start waking up. I have had nothing but truble installing Nvidia video drivers and getting various network adapters working. Half of the problems I have with proprietary drivers is the lack of effort put into them.

Anyway, thanks to the Ubuntu project, maybe an a few years will have most of those problems fixed up.

Oh, the main reason I use Linux and the same reason I think everybody shoud give it a try is, to experiance freedom to do whatever you what without fees and licenses that hang over everybodies heads.

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