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Old 12-27-07   #101 (permalink)
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That isn't true. It's actually easier in Linux. Not only are there log files that can tell you what went wrong, but the Terminal will show the program's output. It'll report what's going wrong while it's going wrong.

Hell, I had a CD yesterday that wouldn't eject, and the OS even told me exactly which processes I had to kill to get it to come out.

And if you want to force-quit a program in Linux, it closes the FIRST time. Not on its own time.
...same as in Vista. I've never had a program linger after killing the process.


Linux is nice. It's an excellent OS. But it is NOT the be-all-end-all, second-coming-of-christ-as-an-OS that so many people make it out to be.
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...same as in Vista. I've never had a program linger after killing the process.
Really? In vista, XP, 2000, 98 and every windows OS I've used, choosing "End Process" in the task manager yielded no result. It would have to be done at least twice before the program actually quit.
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Really? In vista, XP, 2000, 98 and every windows OS I've used, choosing "End Process" in the task manager yielded no result. It would have to be done at least twice before the program actually quit.
Sounds like you've had some bad luck then, because only with one particularly nasty firefox crash in XP has a program not responded to killing the process for me.


And by the way, Firefox has been crashing fairly consistently in Linux for me, it was rare in Windows, but this is like once or twice a day. >.>
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Sounds like you've had some bad luck then, because only with one particularly nasty firefox crash in XP has a program not responded to killing the process for me.


And by the way, Firefox has been crashing fairly consistently in Linux for me, it was rare in Windows, but this is like once or twice a day. >.>
Hmm... It's been like that on every computer I've ever used. End Process never does its thing right when I click it; it takes like one for the program to start to attempt shutting down, then another to [maybe] finally kill it. It's nothing major, though; just a minor annoyance.
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Hmm... It's been like that on every computer I've ever used. End Process never does its thing right when I click it; it takes like one for the program to start to attempt shutting down, then another to [maybe] finally kill it. It's nothing major, though; just a minor annoyance.
Yeah, I'll agree that killing processes is definately quicker with Linux (kill -9 !!). But unlike the Windows 9x days, I rarely have to kill one anymore in Windows.
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Yeah, I'll agree that killing processes is definately quicker with Linux (kill -9 !!). But unlike the Windows 9x days, I rarely have to kill one anymore in Windows.
Or ctrl + alt + esc and click on a window And a crashing program doesn't take down the X server (what I guess would be windows explorer.)
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Perhaps someone can tell me this.....
Can I get iTunes to work properly in Linux?
How well does compiz perform?
And can I get games like Unreal 3 to work nicely?
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Perhaps someone can tell me this.....
Can I get iTunes to work properly in Linux?
How well does compiz perform?
And can I get games like Unreal 3 to work nicely?

iTunes? Certianly not natively. Maybe with Wine or VMware.

Compiz, not sure.

Games - Not very well.
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Also, to anyone who is really looking for legit reasons NOT to run Linux... simply look at this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix-...-ubuntu-3.html

IMHO this just isn't an acceptable option, and why Microsoft and Apple continue to make money hand over fist. The Hundred Gunner, this isn't meant as an attack or rag on you, it's just an example of the type of "pain" that Linux users have to put up with and sometimes downplay:

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Wireless won't work on my Linux for some reason. The way I'm trying to do it won't work. So what I did was share my laptop's wireless connection with my Linux box. So my laptop gets internet wirelessly from the wireless router, and then it shares that connection via ethernet to my Linux box. So essentially I have a wireless connection through a wire, and it's much easier to set up lol
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