Acoma_Andy

Oh hey thanks, no problem, I keep learning

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grayskunk

What a good analogy Can MacOS be Karate? It is used successfully by some but in reality is for self esteem building in children?
I think BSD can be Drunken Boxing with no opponents.

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First of all, props. Thanks, Newphase (/me bows) I appreciate the compliment as well as a civilized but decidedly informative flame-free forum so thanks to Lattyware, too. Finally, mad props to Ducky. Ducky, you did get served on the first post but your follow-up post was highly commendable and deserves considerable respect. Good humor on top of tenacity along with am ability to accept constructive criticism will likely take you wherever you want to go. We can all get lazy, especially when others plot to keep us ignorant and weak. I am very fond of an old Sicilian truism "Only a good friend will tell you when your face is dirty". 'Nuff said.

Regarding Mac and BSD: While we're on the subject of karate analogies, let me propose that OSX is something like Bruce Lee in American films. On the surface is this skinny little guy with an open face and a big grin and a silly squawk. Underneath was an incredibly disciplined but notably loose and flexible powerhouse of shocking power and whose abilities were only barely revealed in still somewhat biased American films.

Where the analogy breaks down is that Apple has gone through dramatic changes, not the least of which was when Woz, the good-natured hacker, left the company to, shall we say, more competitive types. Even though Apple started out with both Woz and Jobs seeking to lead a revolution to unseat what they saw as a tyrannical, resistant to change, dictatorship in IBM, they were actually suppressed by Billy and the Boys at Microsoft, not IBM. To get back to a more martial arts oriented analogy, it wasn't the Shogun but a brother group of Samurai that "betrayed" and marginalized them. Incidentally if you love spy/mystery/detective/murder/war stories you really should at least watch one of the several movies, or better, read a book about the incredible triangle battle at the birth of the personal computer. It's truly a Life Lesson to see how Jobs was beaten and somewhat corrupted by what he saw as a humiliating defeat of quality at the hand of a pandering pimp. The original Mac vs/ Dos battle featured Mac offerring HUGE advantage at memory addressing, partition size, file system and segmentation and much, much more while Microsoft's pandering to legacy to beat Mac at any cost to Computing as a whole, set back PC development at least 20 years worth in both hardware and software. It's a thoroughly fascinating story. One of the tragedies is that the defeat forced compromise on Jobs/Apple if they wished to continue to exist. One of those compromised methods is extreme devotion to the proprietary, even more than M$. Only recently as Jobs has felt more secure in the odds that Apple will not only survive but flourish, has Apple begun to even consider relinquishing it's death grip.

Steve Jobs' decision to build OSX out of BSD was absolutely brilliant and may one day be heralded as the single most important decision he ever made second only to being friends with Woz and talking him into business in the first place. Much of BSD's power is still in there but it is both buried and in some cases crippled. My cousin writes for several Mac publications and when he showed me his OSX box and I opened a terminal his comment was "What the Hello is that?" When I showed him what "grep" and "sed" could do he had to take his jaw off the floor and that was only two commands! Mac guys get impressed easily when you can pop the hood and show them they have a fuel injected engine... er.. sorry, seven samurai with sharp katanas (don't wanna mix metaphors). However on the downside one can't just download any Open Source program and compile and install it. Mac is enough like Linux that game development for Mac makes it easier/cheaper to also make a Linux version available but some vendors view Linux geeks as a non-market of pirates so it's anybody's guess what will happen there especially considering that Unreal Tournament folks who acted so gung-ho about releasing once again the newest version for Linux as well and after all this time only a closed beta is available.

But I digress... The bottom line is that OSX =! BSD. Having said that though, it is commendable that even though kids find OSX friendly it is decidedly not just for kids. It's for power users with money.

antd

I JUST tried Linux because of this topic (Ubuntu)

It was horrible. My trackpad cursor would move slowly. It would take 100 swipes to move it a few centimeters. I searched and nothing would fix it.

Simply, this problem alone shows how ubuntu is unusable on my macbook

It's a shame.

Now I'm back to OSX and I wondered why I tried ubuntu in the first place

CorporalAris

Umm....

I think your doing it wrong.

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The Hundred Gunner

+1

If you were expecting Ubuntu to work straight out of the box (which it USUALLY does), then it failed at that. That doesn't mean it's an overall horrible OS, though.

But I agree on this part: Linux sucks when it comes to trackpads.

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denrocks2

I really hate linux....

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Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing.

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You're Welcome, glad to help

newt111

I love Linux...no particular reason though

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