stumped

MS games don't work on Linux for a few reasons:


First is DirectX. This is just a Microsoft thing. Linux uses OpenGL and Qt. Games for Microsoft aren't designed to utilize that.

The second, is the coding. Each linux dristro has different version of applications (although they try to stay as current as possible) Each application IS installed from scratch (the reo's just set it up inside of an installable file) There is a cammand that is typed in the command line before it is insalled. It is called make This writes a file that tells the compiler what to do based on your current applications. Each disrto has this set up differently with different versions of apps and compilers. I would be impossible to make a game that is CLOSED source be able to support SO MANY different versions. It would just cause too many bugs and delays and cost too much$



Once you set your self up with linux, There are SO many support forums where you can ask a question and get the help you need. Even in Windows there is a leraning curve. YOU GUYS are just used to Windows so you say Windows is easier, why switch? But once you get to linux, you get a whole NEW understanding about HOW your computer works and you increase your computer skills 10 fold. (ok, that might be a bit oof an exaggeration, but it is partly true.) You come to realize how unique Linux users are and how unique Linux is.

Give your self a week to get it installed and setup, and then to learn a few things about it and features it has.

It is only a bit complicated because the hardware companies refuse (well most refuse) to release open source drivers. Be glad you CAN even startup linux on that new computer of yours. It is because there are people who devote their time and computer to help others out there.

jhotmann21

i occasionally use backtrack 2 for "security testing aka amateur hacking" but thats about it for my linux use plus i can just run it live off the cd...i dont mind using commands i just prefer the convenience of not having to reboot for gaming.

Quasimojo

Same here. I'm not Microsoft fanboy by any means. I'm an "OS-that-provides-everything-I-need" fanboy. If all my games could be run on Linux, I'd be there in a heartbeat.

In order of importance, I require:
1) Compatibility (and therefore usability)
2) Stability
3) Security

Microsoft has done one heck of a job ensuring that developers keep them on top with regard to compatibility. Until that changes, I just don't see gamers making the switch. It's a shame, but it's the way it is.

__________________
"You might be a king, or a little street-sweeper,
But sooner or later, you dance with the Reaper."
-- Grim Reaper, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure

lattyware

Uh, that isn't really how it works.
a) QT is the toolkit for KDE, it's for windows (as in the things applications are in, not the OS), nothing to do with games.
b) Actually, that isn't a problem at all. The reason that FOSS software needs package management is because it depends on other FOSS software - with proprietary software (closed source), they ship all of the dependencies along with a program/game (hence DLL hell). With packages, and with closed source software, you do not/would not compile the software. It is entirely possible to ship closed source games for Linux - look at Unreal Tournament. The only reason it is not done is the lack of a large enough market.

__________________
Lattyware | Main (Sig) Rig: gBOX42 | Lan Rig: gLAN42
Never been convinced by Linux? Here is a challenge. | Using LVM
Scratched Disc? | Guide To LAN Parties | Writing a GUI application in Python/Glade
Etching an image into your case. | Wireless Access Points: Easy wireless networking.
A Member Of The OCN Anime/Manga Club
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." --Evelyn Beatrice Hall

Choggs396

You make some very excellent points, and I like your methods of argument.

I am not simply "leaving well enough alone", in my opinion. I'm using a single OS that does everything I want it to do, and does them well.

Change can be good. Progress can be good. Just remember, by definition, progress isn't always good. Progress and change can be positive or negative.

__________________
Je pense, donc je suis
- René Descartes

Freedom gives people the ability to either succeed or to fail.
Ensuring success at the expense of freedom is nothing short of tyranny.

Overclock.net Professionalism Initiative

JeremyFr

Eeeh I'm dualbooting Mac OS an Vista now, and I will say this, as of now my primary boot is now into Mac OS and not Vista anymore. I have tried several distro's of Linux and I had several hardware issues, the biggest one being that I could not get drivers for my Wacom tablet to make it work which is a must have for me.

I'm not gonna bag on Linux as it has its uses, but I gotta say out of the 3, MS,MAC,Linux I am really prefering Mac nowadays as an OS at least, cant say I like any of there hardware.

All 3 have there plus's and minus's and each person will prefer differently but yeah me personally I'm gonna stick with MS/Mac for now.

__________________
Intel Overclocker and Networking/Telecomm GURU.

#10 for fastest download on OCN!! 34Mbps baby!!

http://www.overclock.net/networking-...iscussion.html

Pooping^fish

I like linux, but the complication and somewhat lack of driver support can be a good annoyance. The package managers and free software though really is nice.

__________________
Proud Member of the Linux Gaming Community
I am your friend.

The Hundred Gunner

I've used winrar for Mac. I'm guessing it should be really similar to the Linux version, as it is a CLI program (not GUI.) If you can learn basic CLI syntax (and trust me, learning the most basic commands are not difficult at all), then you can use winrar for Linux.

I agree. I'd buy windows if it were that cheap; I think it would be worth it. But at $400 - I don't have that kind of money; sorry. That would have doubled the cost of my sig rig. So I choose to run Suse.

I agree with this. I feel learning some Linux has empowered me as a computer user in general. I understand more about powerful software, which makes me feel mighty

__________________
"I just talk the way I see things... If that's offensive to you... I'm sorry; you're a loser." - Michael Savage

"But you would be amazed by how many people think that the only reason to have a computer is to play games, and that playing games is all that anyone with a computer does." - dangerousHobo

Sistum Id

Well day 3 of Ubuntu

I cant get the full features of Compiz or Compiz Fusion. I "unlocked" the manager for it and when I do the command to run(start) it the screen blinks off and on and thats it. I cant use the CCSM option cause it doesn't load. I tried updating my nvidia drivers tho the envy way and terminal way. Kinda work...I think. when i do glxgears it works and my glx is working. So now I sit at work on work computer on overclock.net with my test subject (laptop) next to me reinstalling ubuntu.

When I first started messing with compiz last night I followed some advice to uninstall compiz and reinstall just to make sure. I think I might of missed something or did something wrong or that walk tho didnt apply to me. So here we go with Round 2 of Ubuntu.

I also did some searching for a game I play and its not supported for Linux. Some people tried doing the emulation like WINE or Vmare but its way to slow and just drags and sometimes the game wont connect. They might of had a slow system so I dunno. Ill just keep trying and we will see.

Sorry if none of it makes sense, am still learning the lingo.

__________________
FYATT

thenailedone

Glad to see one person that is making an attempt...

I am actually working through a free on-line course at the moment to assist me in getting a understanding of Linux a bit quicker... and it reminds me so much of my days of DOS I'm loving it...

I doubt I will ever change to Vista, XP will be my last M$ OS and the main reason is if I have to tally the cost associated with all of the OS and the other apps I want to use (Office isn't free either) and I look at the quality and the price of FOSS there is no contest... I went from console gaming to PC's because everything will be free when you Pirate but a conscious choice not to pirate some years ago has opened my eyes to the real price of the privilege to use a PC...

At the end of the day to each his own, what ever you are happy with...

__________________
Opinion, I has one!
An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence. It is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts.

...on MW2: