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blazin-asian · 05-02-08

thanks, i'll look it up. lookin forward to triple booting Ubuntu, Vista x64, and hackintosh really soon.

oh yea, i tried to install Ubuntu last night, but it kept giving me errors as i booted from the livecd. i know the cd works cuz i used it at work. tried both 32 and 64 bit versions too. hmm......

does it not like my hardware?

lattyware · 05-02-08

What is the error? I can probably help if you give it to me.

The Super Grub CD is great for fixing Grub installs that have died (missing partitions, and such).

And GRUB is the best bootloader out there.

Iceman0803 · 05-02-08

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Originally Posted by lattyware

What is the error? I can probably help if you give it to me.

The Super Grub CD is great for fixing Grub installs that have died (missing partitions, and such).

And GRUB is the best bootloader out there.

Quick question: Can GRUB be used in a dual boot scenario even if neither OS is Linux?

The Hundred Gunner · 05-02-08

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Originally Posted by Iceman0803

Quick question: Can GRUB be used in a dual boot scenario even if neither OS is Linux?

Yes, but I've had times where GRUB knocked out other distros from the boot list lol

I mean, we scold windows for thinking it's the only OS in the world, knocking any other OS off of its MBR. Linux does the same thing with other distros, though. At least in my experience; they had to be manually added.

lattyware · 05-03-08

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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner

Yes, but I've had times where GRUB knocked out other distros from the boot list lol

I mean, we scold windows for thinking it's the only OS in the world, knocking any other OS off of its MBR. Linux does the same thing with other distros, though. At least in my experience; they had to be manually added.

It's hard to auto-configure it, at least it's possible to add them. That is the point.

arkheii · 05-04-08

I converted my laptop into a Gentoo torrent box, and it's great. Everything is optimized for it and the minimalistic Gentoo installation's hdd footprint is smaller than Server 2003. I learned some Unix commands and system related stuff along the way as well.

So the server build was done, all that was left was this desktop. I decided to try Xubuntu because unlike the server, this build would be more focused on using applications like Opera and NetBeans. All was going well until I tried to get 3D acceleration working, and found out first hand that nVidia driver support for the 9600GT is crap. I really need that 3D acceleration because our thesis makes use of Ogre3D.

Xubuntu is great as an out of the box Linux distro. The installation was too easy -- it didn't even bother asking what I don't want it to install, and 95% of the time I was just looking at a progress bar with no idea what it was putting in my system. Every time I had to do some gritty work it feels like it refuses to cooperate with me (unlike Gentoo). When I configure networking to use a static IP, it clears it out on the next reboot and creates a new one (it's now at eth8... lolwut). When I wanted to close X and use the terminal to install the nVidia drivers, using ctrl+alt+backspace shuts down the machine instead of simply closing X and taking me to the terminal. I had to chmod -x gdm just to make the bugger startup with just the terminal. I also didn't appreciate apt-get as much as I loved Portage (equery and USE flags are awesome).

I'm sure it would take me weeks to setup a Gentoo system with all the functionality that Xubuntu came with out of the box, but for this desktop I'm ditching the Xubuntu partition and sticking to XP until the bums at nVidia prepare stable, high performance drivers for my video card. And when that happens, it's Gentoo for me

lattyware · 05-04-08

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Originally Posted by arkheii

I converted my laptop into a Gentoo torrent box, and it's great. Everything is optimized for it and the minimalistic Gentoo installation's hdd footprint is smaller than Server 2003. I learned some Unix commands and system related stuff along the way as well.

So the server build was done, all that was left was this desktop. I decided to try Xubuntu because unlike the server, this build would be more focused on using applications like Opera and NetBeans. All was going well until I tried to get 3D acceleration working, and found out first hand that nVidia driver support for the 9600GT is crap. I really need that 3D acceleration because our thesis makes use of Ogre3D.

Xubuntu is great as an out of the box Linux distro. The installation was too easy -- it didn't even bother asking what I don't want it to install, and 95% of the time I was just looking at a progress bar with no idea what it was putting in my system. Every time I had to do some gritty work it feels like it refuses to cooperate with me (unlike Gentoo). When I configure networking to use a static IP, it clears it out on the next reboot and creates a new one (it's now at eth8... lolwut). When I wanted to close X and use the terminal to install the nVidia drivers, using ctrl+alt+backspace shuts down the machine instead of simply closing X and taking me to the terminal. I had to chmod -x gdm just to make the bugger startup with just the terminal. I also didn't appreciate apt-get as much as I loved Portage (equery and USE flags are awesome).

I'm sure it would take me weeks to setup a Gentoo system with all the functionality that Xubuntu came with out of the box, but for this desktop I'm ditching the Xubuntu partition and sticking to XP until the bums at nVidia prepare stable, high performance drivers for my video card. And when that happens, it's Gentoo for me

Hmm... Maybe try Arch for the desktop system. It's easier to use than Gentoo, but has a lot of power behind it. I'm gonna be using Arch when KDE4.1 comes out (KDE will be beating Gnome at that point, by my reckoning.)

Shame the 9600 has bad support. nVidia drivers tend to be pretty good actually. The nvidia-settings tool is very good. I remember it took them a while to get the 8600's support sorted.

As to most of your problems, they sound odd. I for one use a static IP fine. I guess it must be a Xubuntu issue rather than and Ubuntu one. Sounds very annoying.

arkheii · 05-05-08

I've installed a basic Arch setup where Xubuntu used to be. The installation process was well guided and very customizable. I think I'm gonna love Arch, but I'll still be waiting for the 9600GT nVidia drivers before I take it seriously. And KDE as well so I don't have to download it all over again

How long did it take for 8 series cards to be fully supported? I've tried beta drivers that "supposedly" add support for my 9600 but Xubuntu's video driver recovery kicks in when I apply the nvidia driver to my xorg.conf.

lattyware · 05-05-08

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Originally Posted by arkheii

I've installed a basic Arch setup where Xubuntu used to be. The installation process was well guided and very customizable. I think I'm gonna love Arch, but I'll still be waiting for the 9600GT nVidia drivers before I take it seriously. And KDE as well so I don't have to download it all over again

How long did it take for 8 series cards to be fully supported? I've tried beta drivers that "supposedly" add support for my 9600 but Xubuntu's video driver recovery kicks in when I apply the nvidia driver to my xorg.conf.

Not oh so long.
I can't remember exactly.

boydyboyd · 05-05-08

im liking Ubuntu more and more now, especially since i managed to get my head round xserver.

its more widespread than i thought, went into college the other day and this guy in my form was putting 8.04 on his laptop.

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