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why? we already got one, it is call "linux distro"....know i am gonna take heat for that remark, but its true, i was playing around with my friends mac the other day, and everything i know about linux, works in the mac, so please explain this to me:

why would i spend 2500 dollars on a 500 dollar pc with a free OS?

just saying....
Used to be because it already came set up and the user didn't have to do anything. Now you can get a Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed or HP with SUSE installed (I'm not positive on the HP one but I think you can).

The other reason used to be that it was a great computer for media apps. Until recently, with Mac jumping on Intel (whom they've bashed for years), those old media apps were designed for the PowerPC RISC arch type and ran really fast. Now the difference is minimal if at all noticeable.

Now, this is being really honest, I can only think of three reasons for buying a Mac.

1. The Mac-Fad. We all know that Mac has been pushing there product toward high school and college students and it is working pretty well. Let's be honest. The Mac laptops are pretty. Even I can't help loving the sleek design and look. Unfortunately, most people who jump on this band-wagon think they are better then everyone else.

2. The "It just works!" mentality. 99% of people who have used Windows have had crashes and BSODs. Windows is a poorly coded operating system and has always been prone to crashing. Add this to the fact that most people bought the cheapest computer that runs off crap hardware and you're bound to frustrate a lot of people. Apple does have a reputation for using decent hardware in there computers and most people don't know about Linux. (I haven't seen a Linux commerical since like 2004)

3. Fanboyism. These are the people that always have used Macs for a long time and will probably continue to always use them. They aren't any different then the people who grew up on Windows though.
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Now, this is being really honest, I can only think of three reasons for buying a Mac.

1. The Mac-Fad. We all know that Mac has been pushing there product toward high school and college students and it is working pretty well. Let's be honest. The Mac laptops are pretty. Even I can't help loving the sleek design and look. Unfortunately, most people who jump on this band-wagon think they are better then everyone else.

2. The "It just works!" mentality. 99% of people who have used Windows have had crashes and BSODs. Windows is a poorly coded operating system and has always been prone to crashing. Add this to the fact that most people bought the cheapest computer that runs off crap hardware and you're bound to frustrate a lot of people. Apple does have a reputation for using decent hardware in there computers and most people don't know about Linux. (I haven't seen a Linux commerical since like 2004)

3. Fanboyism. These are the people that always have used Macs for a long time and will probably continue to always use them. They aren't any different then the people who grew up on Windows though.
"It just works" is the bulk of it. I think fanboyism and fad-ism has little to do with it. Of all manufactured computers out there, macs are the most hassle-free, and I think that's why lots of people are switching. And with the switch to x86, macs can do a lot more than they used to, so that helps "switchers" be more comfortable.

At the end of the day, you've got a person using a computer. The whole "they only get it for fanboyism" thing implies that while the user is using the computer, he has a huge smile of excitement on his face with the knowledge that he is using said product. I don't know anyone else, but when I'm using my computer, I'm on my browser just doing my daily business like anyone else. I would hope that that goes for most others as well.
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Used to be because it already came set up and the user didn't have to do anything. Now you can get a Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed or HP with SUSE installed (I'm not positive on the HP one but I think you can).

The other reason used to be that it was a great computer for media apps. Until recently, with Mac jumping on Intel (whom they've bashed for years), those old media apps were designed for the PowerPC RISC arch type and ran really fast. Now the difference is minimal if at all noticeable.

Now, this is being really honest, I can only think of three reasons for buying a Mac.

1. The Mac-Fad. We all know that Mac has been pushing there product toward high school and college students and it is working pretty well. Let's be honest. The Mac laptops are pretty. Even I can't help loving the sleek design and look. Unfortunately, most people who jump on this band-wagon think they are better then everyone else.

2. The "It just works!" mentality. 99% of people who have used Windows have had crashes and BSODs. Windows is a poorly coded operating system and has always been prone to crashing. Add this to the fact that most people bought the cheapest computer that runs off crap hardware and you're bound to frustrate a lot of people. Apple does have a reputation for using decent hardware in there computers and most people don't know about Linux. (I haven't seen a Linux commerical since like 2004)

3. Fanboyism. These are the people that always have used Macs for a long time and will probably continue to always use them. They aren't any different then the people who grew up on Windows though.
Gotta remember that windows is coded for a wide variety of hardware, so, its much more difficult and you're more likely to run into problems, so, can't really blame microsoft. Mac OSX on the other hand is only for a selection of hardware so apple could optimize it just for that. Even then, they have their own problems. Recently, I was talking to a friend on another forum who's Mac was giving him a screen similar to windows BSOD(Dead mac screen(around that)). Was kinda surprised, but, he told me its been around for quite some time now. Some Mac users also experienced some problems when upgrading to the latest service pack(blue or black screen for hours on end). We get service packs for windows for free , while, each service pack from apple costs ~$125.

@OP nice thread, although, anti-windows I've used windows 95, 98, ME, XP and Vista and haven't seen many BSOD's over my usage, same with problems, so, I can say I'm satisfied. Time to call Bill gates and tell him that I think what it comes down to is people think that any OS they use should be completely free of problems and that they shouldn't have to deal with them, but, people tend to forgot that they are dealing with a new OS and new technology, so, bugs will have to be worked out. Reminds me of the vista and nvidia driver problems when vista was first released
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Was kinda surprised, but, he told me its been around for quite some time now.
What do you mean "it's been around for quite some time?" It's not a common thing, if that's what your friend is getting at. But if he means "it's there," of course it is, just like the BSOD exists. They exist to tell you if you've got faulty hardware or a corrupt system.

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Some Mac users also experienced some problems when upgrading to the latest service pack(blue or black screen for hours on end).
Apple screwed up the 10.5.6 update by only putting up half the download and passing it for the full thing, so only half the update completed and it still told the computers "update complete!"

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We get service packs for windows for free , while, each service pack from apple costs ~$125.
Who told you this? Service packs for OSX are available for download for free:

http://www.apple.com/support/leopard/
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Gotta remember that windows is coded for a wide variety of hardware, so, its much more difficult and you're more likely to run into problems, so, can't really blame microsoft.
Yes I can. Linux is built for a wide variety of hardware too. Servers, PowerPCs, x86, Sun, watches, atms, etc... Weird how almost all hardware will work with some generic drivers and a lot of hardware have drivers built for them.

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Mac OSX on the other hand is only for a selection of hardware so apple could optimize it just for that. Even then, they have their own problems. Recently, I was talking to a friend on another forum who's Mac was giving him a screen similar to windows BSOD(Dead mac screen(around that)).
What THG said.

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@OP nice thread, although, anti-windows I've used windows 95, 98, ME, XP and Vista and haven't seen many BSOD's over my usage, same with problems, so, I can say I'm satisfied. Time to call Bill gates and tell him that I think what it comes down to is people think that any OS they use should be completely free of problems and that they shouldn't have to deal with them, but, people tend to forgot that they are dealing with a new OS and new technology, so, bugs will have to be worked out. Reminds me of the vista and nvidia driver problems when vista was first released
You used ME without many BSOD's??? Holy crap I couldn't open open Microsoft word half the time without getting a BSOD. Kudos to you sir. [/sarcasm]
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I don't either. Explain please?
Simple: copy/paste is windows' specialty! I'm SURE you know what I'm talking about
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OH! HAHAHAHAHA. I still had to look at that post for about 5 minutes before I could understand it.

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most bsods (which are rare in vista, i can honestly say i've never gotten a bsod, other than the time my ram died) are caused by video drivers. Video drivers do a whole lot more in windows than they do in linux.

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oem is $100-150 and every prebuilt computer comes with vista
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most bsods (which are rare in vista, i can honestly say i've never gotten a bsod, other than the time my ram died) are caused by video drivers. Video drivers do a whole lot more in windows than they do in linux.

and i really doubt anyone pays even close to $500 for vista
oem is $100-150 and every prebuilt computer comes with vista
Excuse me? They do more? Wow, that statement it totally ignorant.

And Vistas SMRP is 320$. $500 was just an exaggeration.
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