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Old 04-09-09   #11 (permalink)
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Check out this article and decide for yourself. Keep in mind that the article was posted in Jan 09 using an older version of Windows 7, and the newer release probably offers better performance.

I honestly didn't notice much of a difference in performance between Windows 7 and XP. Despite the fact that Windows 7 is a memory hog (compared to XP), I never exceeded 2GB of RAM even during gaming.
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Not really. I'd say Vista and XP are equal and Windows 7 is a shade faster depending on whether you have 2GB+ of RAM or not.
No, sir; not at all, sir. I don't understand how or why people say this, but the performance difference between XP and vista on medium- to low-powered hardware is night and day.

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Resident Evil 4 on vista on an Athlon 64 2800+ @ ~2.4GHz (socket 754, 1GB RAM, 6800XT unlocked and OCed)

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Resident Evil 4 on XP on the same hardware: nothing but straight 30FPS
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No, sir; not at all, sir. I don't understand how or why people say this, but the performance difference between XP and vista on medium- to low-powered hardware is night and day.

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Resident Evil 4 on vista on an Athlon 64 2800+ @ ~2.4GHz (socket 754, 1GB RAM, 6800XT unlocked and OCed)

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Resident Evil 4 on XP on the same hardware: nothing but straight 30FPS
I did specify the memory constraint. Running Vista on 1GB isn't advisable for anyone. I'm hoping the Macbook has 2GB of memory minimum.
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Not really. I'd say Vista and XP are equal and Windows 7 is a shade faster depending on whether you have 2GB+ of RAM or not.
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I did specify the memory constraint. Running Vista on 1GB isn't advisable for anyone. I'm hoping the Macbook has 2GB of memory minimum.
It wasn't the memory lowering the FPS... It was vista.
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It wasn't the memory lowering the FPS... It was vista.
Well on mine Vista is better than XP so there obviously is a parameter other than the operating system that is slowing performance.
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I did specify the memory constraint. Running Vista on 1GB isn't advisable for anyone. I'm hoping the Macbook has 2GB of memory minimum.
The MacBook comes with 4GB DDR3 1066 memory.

Also, lets leave XP to the side a little and concentrate more on Windows Vista and 7. I've been on Vista ever since it came out, thats because i bought a DX10 ready graphics card, and now Windows 7 is performing better...so i dont think there is any chance that i might actually revert to XP.

The "junk" integrated graphics is a DX10 ready card, and all i'll be playing on it are games like The Sims 2/3, L4D and Flight Simulator, i might experiment with GTA4. These video's convinced me:
*Note: In the videos, GTA4 was run on a 2.4GHz P8600 (i think) C2D, 2GB DD3, 9400M. I know that the settings are most likely on low, but GTA4, like Crysis, look decent even on those settings.
I've got my desktop for my high end gaming...
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Well on mine Vista is better than XP so there obviously is a parameter other than the operating system that is slowing performance.
I wouldn't call that "obviously" just because that happened in your case. In my case, the only thing I changed was the OS (note the system was exactly the same), and my FPS doubled.

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2GB. There isn't one that comes with 4.
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go with Windows Vista (DX10) , or wait until Windows 7 (DX11) is released and use that
don't use Beta software as a primary operating system, its a big mistake to use Beta software
so wait until Windows 7 is released, or use Vista make sure they are 64-Bit versions to
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This isn't an insult, flame, or a "PC fanboy" trying to poke fun at you, I'm just curious about something.

Macs nowadays come with standard PC hardware right? What is the draw in purchasing a Macintosh? I notice that their prices are not absolutely astronomical, but still not exactly "best bang for your buck", not by a long shot.

So from what I can tell, you're getting a PC, in a fancy looking case with an apple, and MacOS preinstalled? Correct me if I'm wrong here, I don't claim to be a Macintosh expert, this is just my observation.

What would make you choose to buy a Macbook over something like an ASUS G50, or an OCZ Barebones Notebook? Is it a status thing? Like buying Gucci jeans over Levis?

It just strikes me as strange that you're buying a Mac so you can use Bootcamp to play games. Why not just cut out the middle man?

There was a time when I could understand this, as a graphic designer for many years, I preferred the Mac G series to PC's because of the beautiful displays, and excellent performance in Adobe and Macromedia products, but now it looks like it's just the same thing, with a different case, and OS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, this is a genuine question.
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This isn't an insult, flame, or a "PC fanboy" trying to poke fun at you, I'm just curious about something.

Macs nowadays come with standard PC hardware right? What is the draw in purchasing a Macintosh? I notice that their prices are not absolutely astronomical, but still not exactly "best bang for your buck", not by a long shot.

So from what I can tell, you're getting a PC, in a fancy looking case with an apple, and MacOS preinstalled? Correct me if I'm wrong here, I don't claim to be a Macintosh expert, this is just my observation.

What would make you choose to buy a Macbook over something like an ASUS G50, or an OCZ Barebones Notebook? Is it a status thing? Like buying Gucci jeans over Levis?

It just strikes me as strange that you're buying a Mac so you can use Bootcamp to play games. Why not just cut out the middle man?

There was a time when I could understand this, as a graphic designer for many years, I preferred the Mac G series to PC's because of the beautiful displays, and excellent performance in Adobe and Macromedia products, but now it looks like it's just the same thing, with a different case, and OS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, this is a genuine question.
well when you are comparing a pc to a mac you are talking about software, it never was about the hardware, only people who don't know **** about computers are going around comparing a windows desktop to a mac desktop with hardware etc

its just all software, so when deciding what you want to use, you look at a Mac operating system and look at the feel of it, and the applications that run on it - you only switch if you have a real need for it or an application running on that platform but if your gonna be using allot and it does everything you can already do on a windows pc but if you already have a windows pc your better of sticking to windows cost of switching isn't worth it unless you have a real need to (e.g. application)

my personal preference is windows platform

Mac is perfectly capable of running on any desktop computer, reason Apple don't do this is because they like to design the system, and the drivers them selfs to ensure stability, Microsoft just make the OS, and leave the drivers to the hardware Manufacturers and allow it to run on any hardware platform with drivers but it does have some hardware limits (e.g. 1 cpu 8 cores 128gb ram etc for x64 platfrom)

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