lattyware

You don't have to use text-based interfaces for most things.

Now-a-days Linux is as easy as Windows, it's just not the same. One has to learn how to use it, yes, but after that, it's easier than Windows, to be quite frank.

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dlee7283

The problem is that we are all spoiled on Windows, Gates has us by the pair and any attempt for Linux to get better will mean that Bill will release a killerapp that runs on his OS and not well on Linux or at all.

I tried Jaunty Ubuntu and I have to admit it is a really nice OS and that Linux has came a long way in just the last year, the quality of software that is out there for free is amazing as it grows by the day and I sometimes forgot I was browsing the net on Linux because it felt just the same as Vista, Youtube ran perfect as well. Quake Wars has a a Linux client and was win with the nVidia drivers. Compiz Fusion owns Aero.

Like someone said, Ubuntu would be hard to recommend to a family member who at least has been use to Windows since XP was released. Issues would arise when they would go beyond just browsing and they buy a camera or printer and call me asking why it doesn't work, then I proceed to look for a solution at their house with them staring me down, prompting me to just put XP or Vista back on so they will leave me alone and I can stop pulling my hair out. I remember Wifi use to be a problem, but that was in like 2005 with Fedora Core Project 4

Linux's problem will always start and end with drivers. The OS is free and very impressive in ways only an enthusiast would fully understand, but some people will pay for the piece of mind that all their devices they buy at Walmart and such will work on their PC.

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TheSandman

you know thats the point, we know our windows problems, we don't know our linux issues at all. Why change from software that you know how to get around the bugs to software you don't? When Linux becomes better in most aspects to windows maybe.

What I would expect is OEM's are following ReactOS for a free OS because its binary compatabile with windows, though still in Alpha, but if there project does finish it will be the open source software to get

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lattyware

By 'most' I presume you mean 'nigh on all' as the statement as it stands is already true.

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TheSandman

not really, ease of use goes to windows, speed of OS goes to windows, hardware support goes to windows, software support goes to windows, UI goes to windows. Secruity goes to Linux

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Redmist

Come to my house and use my Arch Linux with Openbox. We'll see how fast you think Windows is then.

Oh, and as I mentioned in my post a long time ago in this thread, I have an ATI TV tuner that works better in Linux than it ever did in Windows.

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Villainstone

Just a question... Why do you HATE MS? I mean hopefully you have a good reason for hating the company itself, as opposed to their software, or devs.

For example:I hate Alienware PC because they are so overpriced, and over rated. I hear a person mention Alienware and I want to slap some sense into them.

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nathris

The problem is that the linux "enthusiasts" are so used to dealing with all of the issues that they think its just normal.

This article was about why Linux isn't ready for the desktop, ie. the mainstream.

If you think that its normal for you to have to compile your programs, hunt around for dependencies, or read 50+ page manuals trying to figure out why your program doesn't work you've lost touch with reality.

Even the server example is valid. For a home user its much easier to set up an Apache/MySQL server on Windows than it is on Linux. Is it going to be more stable? Probably not, but its a hell of a lot easier.

Linux isn't ready for the desktop because nothing just "works". Pretty much every program for linux will either have bugs or compatibility issues on different types of hardware, or will be slower than the windows version. The windows build of Firefox IS faster than the linux version, and I'm pretty sure the same is true for OpenOffice, although I haven't tested it as much.


Now I'm sure all of you linux fanboys are frothing at the mouth by now, and I'm sure your argument will be "but you can fix it, look at my copy of linux, everything works perfectly!".

But that's exactly the problem. Home users just want something that works, and works right the first time, and that simply doesn't happen enough in linux.

TheSandman

exception to the rule though thats the point. There is another thing to take into account backwards compatability. Vista will run most programs that date back to 2000 , XP will run most programs dating back to about 97. Linux can't claim this kind of support. Linux is free and devoloped by people in there free time, and it not taken seriously to be a desktop OS, its a tweak OS nothing more. The linux crowd's wish to replace Windows would mean all those programmers would have to sit down and hammer out a version that everything works on, with a stable working version of wine, wide range of drivers written by the team for hardware, and a GUI that was more user friendly, and then speed the entire OS up.

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Dawlish7

one distro ubuntu, ubuntu just works,

firstly ubuntu utilises .deb which is basicly an installer package that installs the program and all its dependencies just like windows does it, you download it, run it.. the end

on a default install ubuntu of mine which included everything i don't have to install anything from cli, ubuntu is very user friendly, my point is we are used to how windows does it so we thing that is normal you bring in change and it becomes unusable, ubuntu is not a tweak os imo, you can customize what you want but that is linux at its nature, with ubuntu now evan being packaged with dells i think it is ready for mainstream, even if there is problems linux has a massive user base full or support and people willing to help, also using dell as as example they have adopted this, they support it can help you with problems just as if you were using windows

i am not trying to flame you since i use all mainstream os's, its just your really wrong... JK JK

Linux does not need backwards compatability as it comes with software that you will ever need, if it does not have said software it is easily attainable bar a few exemptions but to the normal average joe all their needs a fulfilled, linux is not only developed in peoples free time, look at major corporations such as red hat, you pay for support but mostly it is free as in forums etc

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