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Old 08-04-09   #11 (permalink)
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Render to .mov, 720p if you can. The file size will still be decent and YouTUbe won't completely ruin it. It'd show up as HD after a while when YouTube fully converts it.

Just an example...you don't have to use Camtasia. Just pay attention to the settings. .mov H264 is the best...


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Record @ 720P, since 1680x will just downscale.

Why do people still use xvid? It's old and outdated, x264 is much better.

40MB for a 20 second video is quite large.

Obviously the video on youtube won't look the same. Firstly it's downscaled, and especially from a 1680x res to 720P, that REALLY looses alot of the readability (look at the text).
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Render to .mov, 720p if you can. The file size will still be decent and YouTUbe won't completely ruin it. It'd show up as HD after a while when YouTube fully converts it.
Using x264 would be better.

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Render to .mov, 720p if you can. The file size will still be decent and YouTUbe won't completely ruin it. It'd show up as HD after a while when YouTube fully converts it.
The container does NOT matter. The codec matters, and not all programs render .mov with h.264.

Hell, even Youtube recommends it.
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Found your problem.
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1680x1050
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compress using xvid codec
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39.8mb
You don't have to use x264 (no other form of H.264 is good, so don't even bother) if you don't want to, but 40MB XviD at 1680x1050, even for 20 seconds is unreasonable. It doesn't look bad because YouTube is bad - your uploaded file looks bad.

How to encode with x264 in 5 simple steps (FRAPS AVI to H.264+AAC mp4):
with a batch file, drag and drop! 1 min setup consisting of copypasting files, no configuration
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The following executables go into c:\windows\system32 (x86)
* x264: 32bit executable (even if you run x86_64)
* Nero AAC Codec (only neroAacEnc.exe is needed)
* avs2wav
* mp4box (the exe, if you're on x64, the DLL goes into c:\windows\system32\syswow64)
* Avisynth (install it like you would any other program, just keep pressing next)

2. Get the batch file - http://pastebin.ca/raw/1627987
Copy paste that into a new .txt file, then give the .bat extension (make sure you don't have "hide extensions for known filetypes" enabled, as you will be unable to remove the .txt extension)
3. Drag and drop the FRAPS AVI on top of the batch file.
4. ???
5. PROFIT! (mp4 comes out, ready to upload to YouTube!)

If you record at 16:9, but at a resolution higher than 1280x720, it will automatically resize to 1280x720 before encoding to save you time and bandwidth.

In: Crysis 2009-03-01 08-15-54-48.avi (1600x900 30 fps, FRAPS+PCM)
Out: Crysis 2009-03-01 08-15-54-48.avi.final.mp4 (1280x720 30 fps, H.264+AAC)
This batch actually works with any AVI file. If you want it to work with every file you can play in your media players (VLC doesn't count), then on the second line, change avisource to directshowsource (but, this will make it stop working with FRAPS AVIs, although it will work with every other kind of AVI).

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Youtube HD ain't even XXXX*720... it's more like 420p...
Actually, they *are* 1280x720.

The video on the page is less than 720p, but you can go full screen for 720p.

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Read: http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-hd-update/

If you don't upload in a format as close to youtube's specs [ie. resolution] as possible they are going to have to transcode it on their servers, and I doubt they put too much emphasis on quality given the amount of processing they likely have to do in a day.

If you want more bang for your youtube buck I would recommend transcoding the video to youtube HD standards on your PC before uploading it.
YouTube always re-encodes (transcoding is something very different). YouTube HD is 2Mbps, which is plenty for x264 (yep, YouTube uses x264) to work with, even at fast settings.

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Also, if you're using a lossy compression in your convesion to xvid you're probably going to lose even more quality when youtube transcodes it to their secret recipe as I doubt they are using a lossless compression.
1. XviD is always lossy.
2. Lossless video is impractical for anything short of intermediates, so why would you even consider that?
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Found your problem.




You don't have to use x264 (no other form of H.264 is good, so don't even bother) if you don't want to, but 40MB XviD at 1680x1050, even for 20 seconds is unreasonable. It doesn't look bad because YouTube is bad - your uploaded file looks bad.

How to encode with x264 in 5 simple steps (FRAPS AVI to H.264+AAC mp4):
with a batch file, drag and drop! 1 min setup consisting of copypasting files, no configuration


This batch actually works with any AVI file. If you want it to work with every file you can play in your media players (VLC doesn't count), then on the second line, change avisource to directshowsource (but, this will make it stop working with FRAPS AVIs, although it will work with every other kind of AVI).


Actually, they *are* 1280x720.

The video on the page is less than 720p, but you can go full screen for 720p.


YouTube always re-encodes (transcoding is something very different). YouTube HD is 2Mbps, which is plenty for x264 (yep, YouTube uses x264) to work with, even at fast settings.


1. XviD is always lossy.
2. Lossless video is impractical for anything short of intermediates, so why would you even consider that?
Thanks. this works for the most part. quick and easy
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It malfunctions somewhat with XviD AVIs because XviD isn't supposed to be in an AVI (any format with B frames shouldn't). Switch avisource with directshowsource to fix.
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It malfunctions somewhat with XviD AVIs because XviD isn't supposed to be in an AVI (any format with B frames shouldn't). Switch avisource with directshowsource to fix.
One more quick question.
How would I keep my original fraps size (1680x1050) when encoding? Because I edited the .bat file and changed all the 1280's and 720's to 1680's and 1050's, but it ends up being 1680x944
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2934/71800822.jpg


Same question for (1920x1200, for when I upgrade my monitor)
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Oh, well, you shouldn't edit the bat. All those 1280 and 720s are there for conditionals. They don't do anything unless it's a 16:9 resolution, like I said. It might even be caused by what you changed. Use the original.

Now, FRAPS tends to record a few pixels short of your real resolution, and the script will round down to mod 2 (this is a requirement). What's the resolution of your FRAPS video? (I recommend you get Virtualdub, load it, then File -> File information and look at the Frame size (first one)).

And get the new bat - http://pastebin.ca/raw/1519198
I changed something slightly unrelated, but who knows. Since the video is 1680x944, it might have been 1680x945 (16:9) before, so now it should be resized to 1280x720 correctly... you should check in Virtualdub though.
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I assume you got it working?
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