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Old 07-03-09   #251 (permalink)
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ya I was trying to bleed the lines (over 30 ft of tubing) I lifted it a bit to far and heard the pump grind and now it wont raise the oil past the level of the tank sigh 1 step forward 8 back this is getting annoying
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Here's an example of what I was talking about with water cooled components submerged in oil. With it down this way you don't have to worry as much about killing pumps with the oil. The oil will still need to be cooled, but you will not need to move as much of it to cool it since the water will be carrying most the heat.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...corepc_reactor
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found the problem I broke the impeller shaft Im glueing it back together as I type


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Here's an example of what I was talking about with water cooled components submerged in oil. With it down this way you don't have to worry as much about killing pumps with the oil. The oil will still need to be cooled, but you will not need to move as much of it to cool it since the water will be carrying most the heat.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...corepc_reactor
that would be nice but blocks are about 100 apiece and I dont have that much cash to burn through atm

edit: nothing against the idea its just that I lack the funding
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Here's an example of what I was talking about with water cooled components submerged in oil. With it down this way you don't have to worry as much about killing pumps with the oil. The oil will still need to be cooled, but you will not need to move as much of it to cool it since the water will be carrying most the heat.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...corepc_reactor
There is no water in that system. I have that magazine, I have read it many times. It is all oil. The whole reason you use oil, is it isnt CONDUCTIVE. Water is. You can not use water in this situation, total submersion in water is impossible. Might as well throw your computer in the pool.
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There is no water in that system. I have that magazine, I have read it many times. It is all oil. The whole reason you use oil, is it isnt CONDUCTIVE. Water is. You can not use water in this situation, total submersion in water is impossible. Might as well throw your computer in the pool.
I think you miss understand what I'm saying. I never said submerge in water. I'm saying a water loop(water passing thru the hoses and blocks) submerged in the oil. The water never touches the oil. A plus to this is you can use subambient temps in the water and not have to worry about condensation. Since everything outside the loop will be surrounded by oil.



Jable, if you watch the for sale section you can find blocks for much cheaper then $100. I paid only $20 for my GPU block and $30 for my CPU block. I only spent $120 on my entire loop.
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With the CPU and GPU, water cooled, sinking the rig in a tank of oil would not make too much sense, or am I missing something?
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I think you miss understand what I'm saying. I never said submerge in water. I'm saying a water loop(water passing thru the hoses and blocks) submerged in the oil. The water never touches the oil. A plus to this is you can use subambient temps in the water and not have to worry about condensation. Since everything outside the loop will be surrounded by oil.



Jable, if you watch the for sale section you can find blocks for much cheaper then $100. I paid only $20 for my GPU block and $30 for my CPU block. I only spent $120 on my entire loop.
But then you defeat the whole reason for a submerged oil system. On top of that, you will not get sub ambient temps. Its not possible as the radiator is still in ambient air. In that article you reference, they don't even use water. They use oil that is inside the case. The case is the reservoir. They use tubing to direct the oil post radiator to the block, to cool it down then it gets dropped back in with the rest. Your misunderstanding the concept and making invalid recommendations.

Also, where does condensation come from? Not where as in how, but where as in your example? You would have to get temps next to freezing to worry about condensation. The only ones that need to worry about condensation are those using TEC's and LN2.
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With the CPU and GPU, water cooled, sinking the rig in a tank of oil would not make too much sense, or am I missing something?
the largest benefit would be you could run freezing temp without worrying about condensation

well the glue did not hold I am going to stop now I know when I am beaten it was/is very frustrating so its time to set it aside turn the music up and try again tomarow
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what is the freezing point of the mineral oil you are using... as long as its below -70c I could use it with my chiller in the fashion you are suggesting...

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