blackeagle

what are you implying there?

I feel that I have a responsibility to keep people from being scammed.. and carbon off-set is a scam.. what is offset anyways? so if I use wind power does that stop coal emissions... or "neutralize them"....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/forum
a forum is democracy to the very core

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=fascism
I think you have these mixed up....


I have a feeling this might be my last post, even though I have not violated any TOS, I have simply spoken my mind and If I can't do that then this really isn't a place for me

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Mootsfox

It's not a scam and you don't need to come in here bashing overclock.net and what it does.


Unless admin is elected, this forum (and most) are not democracies.

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The Pook

Methinks you're fighting an uphill battle.

1) Admin made the site and for the most part, keeps the thing running with the mods. If he wants something he can do it. A definition on another site doesn't apply to all forums. What a "webmaster" wants, they can do. If he wants to turn it into a shoe store (Please don't), he can't, and you have no say in it.

2) For your offset question, if you use wind, even just for yourself, less coal/whatever is being used to power YOU. You help offset the amount of electricity made by traditional methods.

3) As much as I don't believe in global warming, saying that it's OK to keep pumping carbon out freely is kinda...eh. Donating some money is always better than none at all, at that. (Not that I am, I can't even fund my own rig. )

4) God it's been a long time since I've agreed with CyberD/admin.

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rippon

No one is forced to donate, can you guys stop bickering about a non-point?

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blackeagle

when did I say anything like this? admin is the owner of the website of course. I merely thought that a forum should be open discussion.. excuse me... and yes it is a scam... My parents have solar panels... do I think this is stopping global warming... lol no

and this is not a shoe store, this is a forum which is supposed to be an open discussion on a specific topic.

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Mootsfox

It is open discussion... but accusing admin of stealing our money is at the very least, not a good idea, especially when he isn't.

It's not a scam. You may not like the idea, but others do, let them do what they want without criticizing them.

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blackeagle

please show me where i said this.... and yes it is a scam.

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Yay for Carbon Neutral. Glad to see our sons and grand sons WILL still able to access this site decades from now.

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Very nice. For all the people out there trashing the idea, think about what you're doing. Every single organization has been accused of corruption. What is the better option here? Sit back and do nothing because everything is a "scam", or contribute to the organizations that are working to solve worldwide concerns?

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admin

When it comes to an announcement pertaining to donations on behalf of a website, this really is not a topic for discussion on an overclocking forum. We are a drama-free site - which focuses on the pursuit of performance.

If you really do not believe that either a) renewable energy programs are worth supporting or b) that the organization we have donated to is worthwhile, that is your own opinion. But this is not the site to discuss this stuff on - especially when it does not involve you directly.

As a webmaster, we have every right to fund programs we believe make our world a better place - the same way that anyone does. If you REALLY feel we are doing harm by making such a donation, choose to speak with your lack of participation on the site.

If you really want to discuss the merits of such actions, I am sure that there are many communities out there that are dedicated to discussing this specific topic.

While we tend to like to make these types of things interactive, I do think this thread has become off-topic and is now riddled with political undertones. This is not what this site is meant for. We have no intentions with this donation other than to attempt to negate our specific negative impact on this world.

Do as you will - and do not complain about the attempts to do good of others. That is not productive nor in the nature of this site or its heritage.

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