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jamenta · 03-22-07

Hi Rakukojin. Thx for checking out my FAQ. I'm surprised the 8800 doesn't
do Q3 well. It should work fine however with Qarl's Pack 2, his earlier version.

Don't forget to download the night graphic packages, beautiful stars & planets.
It's worth it.

Also, I do strongly recommend one gameplay mod, even if you don't plan on using
any others, that's Oscuro's Overhaul, which won Gamespy's best player mod of
the year for 2006. Oscuro's really fixes a lot of stuff and also does away with dynamic
monster leveling which most people agree was a bad decision by Bethseda in an
otherwise remarkable game.

civilr · 03-22-07

Nice thread you have done here, I respect it even more because you have kept it updated and answered questions since the time you started it.

As a side note here for anyone playing Oblivion. If you are new to the game and don't really know what is going one then I suggest you pick up Qarl's Texture Pack (v3 for cards with 512mb RAM+, v2 for lower than 512mb RAM; yes that's you 320mb GTSers). This isn't so much a mod as it is a reskin of the entire game (almost, minus some stuff). It pretty much makes the game look like a graphical masterpiece afterwards (with this I will put up with the badly coded game, without this the game looks like **** and I wouldn't trade a penny to play it with stock graphics and all the bugs).

Download the Unofficial Oblivion Patch and use that as it fixes a ton of stuff in the game that can range from causing crashes to corrupting save game files.

On a last note, the gameplay in Oblivion is something horrid. It sucks, plain and simple. The system they use allows for a ton of exploits and makes the game way to easy (even on hard). I will give the game a point for graphics (provided it has Qarl's textures installed) so it wins in that department but like the saying goes "you can't have your cake and eat it too". What you will want to do is get the OSCURO'S OBLIVION OVERHAUL mod. It completely redoes the entire game down to every last detail (yes this includes the maker actually placing chests and jewelry boxes by hand in houses/dungeons throughout the world).

OSCURO'S OBLIVION OVERHAUL pretty much redesigns the whole game's system and about half the mods listed on the original post in this thread change stuff that is already altered when you use OSCURO'S OBLIVION OVERHAUL so a lot of it will be unnecessary (yes I have read the entire change log for v1.31).

Anyways, like I was saying...If you are either new or have just recently started then you should install all three things I mentioned here and start your character (if you already have one started I recommend you delete him and restart as a lot of these changes and bug fixes may not take effect within your current game).

jamenta · 03-22-07

civilr,thanks for your feedback!

I'm curious what mods I'm recommending that are already in Oscuro? Note
that some mods I recommend, such as Living Economy, because Oscuro's
uses an older version and he says in his readme file that it's OK to use the
more current Living Economy, so I recommend it. But if there is anything
I recommend that's duplicated I'd like to know so I'm not redundant in
my recommendations.

jamenta · 03-23-07

FAQ Update

New OFFICIAL Bethseda Oblivion patch, version 1.2
Text updated, link included.

jamenta · 03-25-07

FAQ Upsate

New link to Unofficial Patch (to be used with new official patched 1.2).
Fixes over 1000 bugs.

chrisb · 03-26-07

Hi Jamenta,

First off, let me start by saying what an excellent modding guide you have written. I am completely new to Oblivion and found your guide the only one out there that actually does a good job of explaining things.

Onto my problem. I have recently upgraded to a Core 2 Duo E6600, eVGA i680, 150GB WD Raptor, 1GB 4-4-4-12 Corsair memory, GF8800 GTX. One of my reasons for upgrading was to play Oblivion. I have downloaded and installed all of the mods you have listed with the exception of using BTQ's 4096 LOD normals instead of the 2048.

Now the game runs relatively ok in terms of frame rates, but when I start "walking" I get a lot of HD thrashing when the game needs to load in new landscape items that come into view, i.e trees and the like.

Could this be down to only have 1 GB of system RAM ? Or have I simply gone too far with having the best mods and my system is paying the price ?

Thanks once again.

jamenta · 03-26-07

Hi Chris. Glad you like my FAQ.

I can't give you a definitive answer, that is, I am not absolutely sure what
your problem is. You have an excellent GPU ... does your 8800 have over 512M memory?
I think there are some 8800s being release that only have
320M. My 7900 GTO has 512M memory on board, and I believe to run Qarl III
without problems, you need at least 512M. Your 8800 GTX outclasses my GTO, but my
performance is just fine with the GTO. I imagine you have the latest NVidia
drivers as well....

Going to 2 GB may solve your problem, although I can't guarantee it. But
most high-end gamer systems are at 2 GB now anyway, so another 1G stick
wouldn't hurt you in the long run.

Also, check out the TWEAK OPTIMIZATION guide I recommend in my FAQ.
There are a number of tweaks that may resolve your loading problem as well.

I can tell you with the system I have (see my specs) I do not thrash when
walking around. But I also have two Seagate Barracudas (320G) 7900.10
Perpendiculars running in RAID 0 (I bought two on Newegg for about $100 each),
which increases my load thru-put considerably.

Let me know if you resolve the problem. Most likely it's the texture mod load
that is causing the thrashing and you are running out of memory, either on
the GPU card or your general system memory.

jamenta · 03-26-07

Chris:

Also, check out the TWEAK OPTIMIZATION guide I recommend in my FAQ.
There are a number of tweaks that may resolve your loading problem as well.

Go here: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html

chrisb · 03-26-07

Hi Jamenta,

Thanks for your reply. MY GF8800 GTX is the 768MB version. I really do suspect that it is system RAM. If it was a GPU issue my frame rate whilst standing still would be suffering (i.e just panning left to right) but it doesnt.

May have to dip into the pot I think!

Rakukojin · 03-26-07

I love the newest official patch because the new LOD textures from the patch seems to run more smoothly for me than adding LOD texture mods.

03-26-07	#56 (permalink)
chrisb New to Overclock.net Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Rep: 0 Unique Rep: 0 Trader Rating: 0	A lot of HD thrashing.. Hi Jamenta, First off, let me start by saying what an excellent modding guide you have written. I am completely new to Oblivion and found your guide the only one out there that actually does a good job of explaining things. Onto my problem. I have recently upgraded to a Core 2 Duo E6600, eVGA i680, 150GB WD Raptor, 1GB 4-4-4-12 Corsair memory, GF8800 GTX. One of my reasons for upgrading was to play Oblivion. I have downloaded and installed all of the mods you have listed with the exception of using BTQ's 4096 LOD normals instead of the 2048. Now the game runs relatively ok in terms of frame rates, but when I start "walking" I get a lot of HD thrashing when the game needs to load in new landscape items that come into view, i.e trees and the like. Could this be down to only have 1 GB of system RAM ? Or have I simply gone too far with having the best mods and my system is paying the price ? Thanks once again.

03-26-07	#59 (permalink)
chrisb New to Overclock.net Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Rep: 0 Unique Rep: 0 Trader Rating: 0	GF8800 Memory Hi Jamenta, Thanks for your reply. MY GF8800 GTX is the 768MB version. I really do suspect that it is system RAM. If it was a GPU issue my frame rate whilst standing still would be suffering (i.e just panning left to right) but it doesnt. May have to dip into the pot I think!

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