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psyco™ · 02-16-09

Well that's the question i am asking my self is this just a phase i am going through

As i start preparing the motherboard this week for my phase change cooler i just cant help thinking to myself why is phase change cooling not the top thing to do when it comes to cooling?
The fist thing i notice is the lack of people you get viewing this section of overclock.net forum is this some elite step to take in the world of overclocking or is it just to much for some people

I just thought i would give it ago and will be posting my steps,will take me 3 days to prep the board

take your time i say to myself.
Would be good to get more people into it seems very small majority of us

rpm666 · 02-16-09

I've personally contemplated it but, I suppose it just hasn't really struck me as necessary. And I admit, about 90% of what I do isn't necessary

I think I'm leaning more towards TEC than Phase only because I can direct the heat of all components outside, and in Texas, that's a big deal

psyco™ · 02-16-09

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Originally Posted by rpm666

And I admit, about 90% of what I do isn't necessary

You could put me around that % for doing things that are not necessary.
I do get people saying WHY!!

Phase is a lot cheaper these days you can pick units up on ebay cheap from time to time

d3str0y3r0fn00bs · 02-16-09

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Originally Posted by rpm666

I've personally contemplated it but, I suppose it just hasn't really struck me as necessary. And I admit, about 90% of what I do isn't necessary

I think I'm leaning more towards TEC than Phase only because I can direct the heat of all components outside, and in Texas, that's a big deal

you can do the same thing with a tec you can a phase unit. just get a liquid cooled condensor. it'd give you lower temps and you can dump the heat outside. otherway is to put an exhause fan in the back of the phase unit and take dryer duct tubes. personaly i like the liquid cooled condensor idea beter for handleing heat dump, but either works.

and you ask why phase hasn't caugt on big time. for one. what is the average price of a pc people buy today? think about it. somthing like 95% of americans buy a pc from a large retail chain like bestbuy or dell for like $850. an average phase unit coss $600 starting. the cooler is as much as the pc bacicaly. that and most of there idea's of extreme cooling is placing the pc in a freezer, which we all know how stupid that actualy is.

so the reasons why this hasn't caught on is
#1 price
#2 99.9999% of americans dont even know such a thing rely exists for a pc
#3 most are idiots

Veltri · 02-19-09

For me, liquid cooling got boring fast, and TEC are a waste of time, imo (no offense, RPM). So the logical step was phase. However, my first phase project is a chiller that I am gonna hybrid with my WC system. Then I'm thinking I'll skip SS altogether and try to build a power-sipping cascade.

psyco™ · 02-19-09

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Originally Posted by Veltri

For me, liquid cooling got boring fast, and TEC are a waste of time, imo (no offense, RPM). So the logical step was phase. However, my first phase project is a chiller that I am gonna hybrid with my WC system. Then I'm thinking I'll skip SS altogether and try to build a power-sipping cascade.

That sounds a interesting project

h00chi3 · 02-19-09

Cost. If I could get a phase unit for 250 bucks (that is what I paid for my W/C setup on my primary rig), that cooled better then my W/C, then I would do it. It is all about the MONIES.

thunder_2008 · 02-19-09

Veltri is spot on...w/c is funny but performance price wise phase is the best.

also it is necessary especially when you have a stock cpu as you get top notch performance which can match or best a stock top cpu.

Most important is stability reliability...w/c is something that one must monitor on occassion so as not to spring any leaks.

Same goes for phase only its more like once in a blue moon monitoring.

If that is not reason enough for why people don't understand phase then god help them.

Anyways, ss units are good and will get you more performance than w/c or tec but of course cascading is uber.

I have had my LS for like 1-year without any issues no more filling evaporated water leaks from overheated loop etc. splashes that send mbs' rmas.

Of course phase is not going to be a picnic for the laymen this is a reason why some people who know about it won't get into phase, w/c/ tec or anything that requires their time and especially their effort.

They would rather spend little $ or big money and have someone else do it for them.

thunder_2008 · 02-19-09

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Originally Posted by h00chi3

Cost. If I could get a phase unit for 250 bucks (that is what I paid for my W/C setup on my primary rig), that cooled better then my W/C, then I would do it. It is all about the MONIES.

That ocz phase changer is not far off from that price...check this out:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...cts/ocz_cryo_z

Veltri · 02-19-09

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Originally Posted by thunder_2008

That ocz phase changer is not far off from that price...check this out:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...cts/ocz_cryo_z

I've heard this is crap. Apparently OCZ is only doing local pickups so you literally have to go buy a pallet full of them. Seemingly they want to distance themselves from the product and just sell what's been produced. However, I have heard rumours of a second revision that aren't total garbage.

This might interest phase noobs
http://www.xpressar.com/

02-16-09	#1 (permalink)
psyco™ Overclocker in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 54 Rep: 1 Unique Rep: 1 Trader Rating: 0	Just a Phase?? Well that's the question i am asking my self is this just a phase i am going through As i start preparing the motherboard this week for my phase change cooler i just cant help thinking to myself why is phase change cooling not the top thing to do when it comes to cooling? The fist thing i notice is the lack of people you get viewing this section of overclock.net forum is this some elite step to take in the world of overclocking or is it just to much for some people I just thought i would give it ago and will be posting my steps,will take me 3 days to prep the board take your time i say to myself. Would be good to get more people into it seems very small majority of us Last edited by psyco™ : 02-16-09 at 03:34 PM

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Veltri New to Overclock.net Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 120 Rep: 10 Unique Rep: 10 Trader Rating: 0	For me, liquid cooling got boring fast, and TEC are a waste of time, imo (no offense, RPM). So the logical step was phase. However, my first phase project is a chiller that I am gonna hybrid with my WC system. Then I'm thinking I'll skip SS altogether and try to build a power-sipping cascade. __________________ Waterboard P5B Vanilla (vdimm, vdroop, vcore) e6300 489x7 @ 1.7V 8800GT (vmem, vcore) 780/1800/2000 MCR320, MCP655, MCW60 Noam Chomsky FTW

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