sirdanceal0t

The purpose of this post is to find out how I can get the absolute best possible quality video capture using a Dazzle DVC-170 Platinum when capturing from my PS3. My plan (unless I find out from you guys that there is a better way) is to capture using the Dazzle, and tweak/render the video file using Sony Vegas Pro. Also, it should be noted that my purpose is to be able to upload this video file to YouTube and obtain the best possible quality widescreen HD option with no black bars/borders. Oh, and because I am using the dazzle I am using composite cords, but I AM USING S-video.

I know about the Hava and the Hauppage capturing devices but I cannot afford them yet. Until then I will be using this technique. I get (I'm sure not the BEST) great quality IMO when I capture from my Xbox360 but when I try to capture from my PS3 it looks horrible. I will be posting a capture to show the quality of the capture completely unedited below.

While I am adept at many programs I will be the first to admit that I am by no means a pro! I will be honest and let you know if I need something spelled out for me as I may click on check boxes/select options within programs, but that doesn't mean that I understand the technicality of WHY I check the option to disable resample, interlace, etc. That's why I need your help! I'm here to try my best to get help and will do whatever it takes. Thanks for any and all advice!

P.S. You can see the xbox 360 quality on my "Gears of War 2 Funny Sniper Moment That's Five Motherfu__ers" video versus my capture quality on my attempted captures from my PS3. Check it out at the below link. It is my Youtube Homepage:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ElectronicElation

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sirdanceal0t

The settings I used in Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 12:

The unedited Video Obtained from the above settings:
You can see a LOT more details with the above video if you maximize it.

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Umm... spam?

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Umm... no.

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sirdanceal0t

What do you mean? I'm trying to get help with my settings to get a better caputuring quality? Did I do something wrong?

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sirdanceal0t

Okay, here is a link to download the exact video above:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5EBPV2AX

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sirdanceal0t

Okay, I went to Pinnacle's website (company that makes the Dazzle DVC 170 I use) and could only find one page with specifications. It doesn't contain any resolution information, just video export features, etc. Anyways, here is the link to the page:

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSit...latinum+US.htm

Pinnacle doesn't make the Dazzle DVC 170 platinum anymore.They replaced it with the Dazzle Plus. . . which I heard actually sucks more than the DVC 170. -=/ Anyway

From what I know the Dazzle DVC 170 can only capture in Standard Def, NOT High def. But after reading some online forums I read that some people say it CAN capture in HD. Either way this is my understanding. . .

Dazzle capturing cards: Play in SD, Capture in SD.
Dazzle Link: http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSit...oducts/Dazzle/

Hava Platinum HD capture card: Play in HD, Capture in SD
Hava Link: http://www.myhava.com/product_hava_platinum_hd.html

Hauppauge HD PVR: Play in HD, Capture in HD
HD PVR Link: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

Although (as far as I KNOW! Correct me if I'm wrong) Dazzle's cannot capture in HD format. As I cannot afford a Hava, or a Hauppauge right now, I am not expecting to record in HD. But I know for a fact (I've done it) I can get the HD option on Youtube either way. Pretty much as long as your video fits the right dimensions and isn't complete crap quality you can get the HD option in Youtube.

Although I don't pretend that this is the BEST quality one can obtain from a Dazzle, I am simply posting the following video to show that this quality is far superior to my crappy PS3's quality of capture. Reference the following video. This is the quality of the capture I have ALREADY obtained when recording from my Dazzle DVC170 from my Xbox360. Be sure to watch it with HD and full screen selected to see it in much better detail.
In this vid the "HD" option is selectable and does make a good difference, and the screen shows no black bars/borders. . . widescreen. Remember, read the top of my first post. My purpose isn't to CAPTURE in HD, but to post to Youtube with the HD option. I obtained this by tweaking the raw video I captured in Sony Vegas Pro using filters, etc.

However, when capturing from my PS3 the quality is crap no matter how much tweaking I do. haha

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sirdanceal0t

Funny thing. . . I have been researching and there are people on Youtube that have hauppauge 1212 HD PVR's (play AND capture in HD) and there are people posting youtube video responses with their Dazzle unit's that are getting MUCH better quality. LoL Albeit the people capturing with the Hauppauge's don't know jack about their settings and the people with the Dazzle's use filters/render them. I guess it just goes to show that it's all about how much you know, and the filters/rendering you use, etc. . . this is what I need to find out! Any help out there? Can't imagine what the video would look like if someone captured using a Hauppauge 1212 HD PVR (or the sort) and ALSO used some killer settings/rendered it great. That'd be sweet lookin.

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The thing is that enabling the HD option doesn't do anything for quality. With your GoW video, sure - but that's only because it was messed up in the first place so it needed more bits.

What defines HD is effective resolution, not more bits. Your GoW video's effective resolution is less than that of VHS, thanks to bad initial capture quality and blending (Pinnacle's fail deinterlacing).

As for his quality... first, <all> of his videos are SD. The only difference is the video (not effective) resolution, codec, and bitrate.

You can achieve better quality than him, because he also has blending. All HD mode will do is make your videos take longer to load. Done properly, HQ is sufficient for SD material.

About the last paragraph - capture settings in Pinnacle... we'll totally dump it. From what I saw in that video on YouTube that shows the settings, it's too restrictive. We'll capture directly using the VfW filters provided by the Dazzle drivers, in hopes of achieving better quality.

Since I have no idea what settings they present, we'll have to do it through remote control or at least you'll have to let me see your desktop as you follow my instructions, if you don't want to give me control (although you can always override my control by using the mouse or keyboard). Get TightVNC Server, forward the port if necessary, and PM me the info.

We'll post screenshots as we go along to document the process in this thread

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sirdanceal0t

Yeah, I want to find a balance. The best possible quality I can obtain on Youtube. . . with a Dazzle that is. . . while at the same time, I'd like people to actually be able to watch the video. There have been many videos on Youtube that I have seen that look simply AMAZING, for the first few seconds until the video stops loading because my internet connection can't keep up. My connection is just under 1Mbps so if Youtube videos can't load properly for my internet connection I can't image what it must be like for people with slower connections. It'd be nice for the vids to be able to look good and actually not play choppy.

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