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Old 03-06-07   #51 (permalink)
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this is as retarded as 90% of the other posts in this thread. all of this information is completely subjective. thinking that this is how everyone rates a review site's athority, is quite biased in itself. not that this train of thought is steered off the tracks of this thread, since the entire thread has been one biased opinion after another, but it is infact contradicting, hypocritical, ignorant and has brought a sense of comedical response in my own head.

thumbs up for the laugh.
Call it personal preference, but intellectual honesty be damned for once in my life. We aren't talking about the review methodology of transitional fossils, we're discussing PSU reviews. Loading a PSU into a rig, saying "oh, well it runs at full load for a few weeks", and calling the review good is not the sort of test I want to base a purchase off of. If anything, the peace of mind given by knowing the components inside of your PSU are good quality is enough.

I will not go as far as to say that Jonnyguru's method is superior to everything that was, is, and will be, but I will go as far to say that I have not yet seen a PSU review that is as thorough as Jonny's. If that sets off some high-nosed ringer in that pea brain of yours, then laugh all you want.

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Call it personal preference, but intellectual honesty be damned for once in my life. We aren't talking about the review methodology of transitional fossils, we're discussing PSU reviews. Loading a PSU into a rig, saying "oh, well it runs at full load for a few weeks", and calling the review good is not the sort of test I want to base a purchase off of. If anything, the peace of mind given by knowing the components inside of your PSU are good quality is enough.

I will not go as far as to say that Jonnyguru's method is superior to everything that was, is, and will be, but I will go as far to say that I have not yet seen a PSU review that is as thorough as Jonny's. If that sets off some high-nosed ringer in that pea brain of yours, then laugh all you want.

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The way you talk about Tom's Hardware's reviews implies that you aren't very familiar with them, or the detail that they go into. And they do go into detail. I want to see that PSU can operate at full load like it is rated to, because that is a worse case scenario. That is a more important test than you give it credit for, and it isn't the only one that Tom's Hardware does, so you can stop suggesting it is.
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well i am likely to go with the johny guys review because that is his main staple, PSU's, and i think everyone knows that a person or group of people that focus there efforts at one thing are generally better at that then someone or gruop who does a multitude of things, i havent used either one of them for purchasing a psu and ive done pretty good but for my next psu purchase i am pretty sure ill go with johny's site for referencing which one i should get
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The way you talk about Tom's Hardware's reviews implies that you aren't very familiar with them, or the detail that they go into. And they do go into detail.
I'm not trying to say that they don't, and I apologize if I come off that way.

Both of my graphics card purchases were based off of Tomshardware reviews. My CPU HSF is based off of Tomshardware reviews. I'll probably be using the Tomshardware article on overclocking an E4300 as a reference while I overclock my own that I'm going to be purchasing.

Maybe I'm really biased. I am open to the possibility, as no one is perfect. When Jonny posts a review, I get all of the information that I would ever have a question about, and then some. The reviews are then discussed in the forums by people who are just as qualified, if not more in some specific areas, as Jonny. You ask for a PSU suggestion and he lists multiple PSUs in a given price range, helps you find the place that sells them the cheapest (and has service that he can vouch for), and then outlines the pros and cons of each.

I wouldn't make a GFX card purchase on his advice, but I'd take his word on a PSU before I'd take anyone else's that I have seen so far.
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Call it personal preference, but intellectual honesty be damned for once in my life. We aren't talking about the review methodology of transitional fossils, we're discussing PSU reviews. Loading a PSU into a rig, saying "oh, well it runs at full load for a few weeks", and calling the review good is not the sort of test I want to base a purchase off of. If anything, the peace of mind given by knowing the components inside of your PSU are good quality is enough.

I will not go as far as to say that Jonnyguru's method is superior to everything that was, is, and will be, but I will go as far to say that I have not yet seen a PSU review that is as thorough as Jonny's. If that sets off some high-nosed ringer in that pea brain of yours, then laugh all you want.

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there's an aweful lot of "I's" in that statement to try and pass it off as not being "biased". did you pay attentiont to the point being made, or were you too busy taking offense to something on the internet, and had to quickly toss out insults when you were just reitterating your already discredited point?

let's make this a little easier...

for argument's sake, ford = tomshardware, ferrari = johnnyguru

me: i'm looking for a car
you: you should get a ferrari
me: well, that ford is cheap, economical, pretty much just what i'm looking for
you: you're an idiot for not getting a ferrari
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there's an aweful lot of "I's" in that statement to try and pass it off as not being "biased". did you pay attentiont to the point being made, or were you too busy taking offense to something on the internet, and had to quickly toss out insults when you were just reitterating your already discredited point?

let's make this a little easier...

for argument's sake, ford = tomshardware, ferrari = johnnyguru

me: i'm looking for a car
you: you should get a ferrari
me: well, that ford is cheap, economical, pretty much just what i'm looking for
you: you're an idiot for not getting a ferrari

Nah, let me show you a simple example that applies to most of the help threads in this forum-

You- I need a new PSU for my rig
Me- Well you should check over at Jonnyguru
You- Well some l33ts roxxor site lists this flashy PSU with eighty amps on the 12V for only 30 bucks!
Me- It will ruin your computer
You- You're recommending **** I don't need man!
Me- Check out this (insert jonny link here) review
You- Oh hey, when that PSU is cross loaded with low amps on the 12V rail at 40C operating temperature, it blows up.
Me- Your welcome.


I also agree with madmax when he says that a site that specializes in a component is more thorough than a site that does not specialize in said reviewed component.

"reitterating your already discredited point?"

<Chozart EDIT - Irrelevant and inappropriate language>

Best regards,
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EDIT

I just wanted to apologize for my language. I don't mean any personal offense, and I'm not taking this discussion personal in the least. If this language is found offensive or in violation of rules, then someone give me a head's up and I'll be happy to edit it out for something a little more PG.
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Personally, I never take the word of a single reviewing site, however good it might be. That's what I meant with my initial statement in which I brought up Tomshardware

I use a mix of good review sites, and legacy of user experience (thus, looking how other members here experienced their purchase).

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Personally, I never take the word of a single reviewing site, however good it might be. That's what I meant with my initial statement in which I brought up Tomshardware

I use a mix of good review sites, and legacy of user experience (thus, looking how other members here experienced their purchase).
I think that's probably the best and most intellectually honest way to go about things. If I HAD only five minutes of internet access before making a PSU purchase though, I'd hit Jonnyguru.

I've seen a few reviews for my PSU on other sites, and to say at the least I was unimpressed. Maybe it's personal preference, but a few little problems sort of blew the review for me. For instance, checking to see if a SilverStone PSU will mount properly in a SilverStone case? Com'on, no brainer. Marking down scores for some vague reason and not elaborating? Not my cup of tea.

This site I'm refering to is not Tomshardware, and I don't want to list it in the hopes of not offending anyone from that website. If you'd like the name, PM me and I'll give it to you.
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PSUs.... shall we gentlemen?

And try it nice this time. It'd be a shame that this thread would go down because of silly fights.

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