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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #1 (permalink)
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I took the PSU antec calc and i am around 20-30 watts away from hitting 550w with my current system. Also, my games play slower than what they should and crysis laggs a bit with no AA on a small screen. Are my parts getting enough power? How many watts is my 4890 taking up when its overclocked at the speeds in my sig rig? My quad uses 181watts!!

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It's possible that this stutter is your HDD and not any other part of your setup.

You are running two different drives in RAID 0 with probably 2 different platter sizes which can cause stutter.

This is why you try to RAID exact drives, IE 2 x 320GB AAKS drives, or 2 x F3 500GB drives.

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It's possible that this stutter is your HDD and not any other part of your setup.

You are running two different drives in RAID 0 with probably 2 different platter sizes which can cause stutter.

This is why you try to RAID exact drives, IE 2 x 320GB AAKS drives, or 2 x F3 500GB drives.
Using raid has helped a lot with any stuttering. Let's get power issue's out of the way first.

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Using raid has helped a lot with any stuttering. Let's get power issue's out of the way first.
Well even on 1Ghz 1.4v (GPU) & 1.6v 3.7ghz (CPU) you still are barely getting close to 400watts (386watts by my estimation) and your PSU has 492watts on the 12v Rail, so you are fine there.

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I hade stuttering before i even used 2 hard drives never mind raid 0 btw. How come the antec calculater says otherwise to your estimation.
The 4890 uses 190watt full load (at stock)
my quad at 3.7ghz/1.4vcore uses 181watts full load
As you can see, i think i need more power.

Any power supply suggestions that are cheap but good?

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[XFX]-[4890-XXX]-[1GHz]-[4.4GHz]
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First, those calcs spit out the PSU size you should buy, not what your system consumes. Second, while gaming I doubt you go much higher than 300W and if you could find a way to absolutely max everything you will not break 400W.
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I hade stuttering before i even used 2 hard drives never mind raid 0 btw. How come the antec calculater says otherwise to your estimation.
The 4890 uses 190watt full load (at stock)
my quad at 3.7ghz/1.4vcore uses 181watts full load
As you can see, i think i need more power.

Any power supply suggestions that are cheap but good?
If stuttering was present before and you added another HDD and the same stuttering is there I wouldn't say it's a power problem
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Now am getting mixed idea's. It is not a power issue and it is a power issue. The only thing to settle this is evidence that my PC only breaks 400w.

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Your computer does not pull 550W. Not even close.
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Antec list the power draw as high because they want you to buy a new psu.

You are not having power issues - generally these are easy to pinpoint as you don't tend to get a shutdown you get a BSOD or a full shutdown.

Rather than RAIDing those 2 disks you might be better off keeping them separate & installing Windows to one of them and your games to the other.
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