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atlas_nathan · 07-20-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by brysky

so atlas, do you suggest the puget system? My water cooling system just died and was looking at new systems and came a cross the puget system and then while doing research came a cross this thread. I have read overclock many times but never joined till now.

So do you suggest the Puget system with cooling module or is there a better oil system out there, or go with another water cooling system?

I am running the following:
Motherboard: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
Hard Drive: 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail
GPU: 2x (IN SLI) EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
GPU FANS: 2x ARCTIC COOLING ACCEL X8800 Fluid Dynamic VGA Cooler
Power Supply: OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

I know most of my hardware is outdated as I built the system in 2007-2008, Is my system able to use the puget system version two of the aquarium submerged or do I need to upgrade parts, and what is needed to be upgraded?

Thanks in advance,

Brysky

The only you'll want to look at is hard drive mounts. I think the Puget system may only have a single disk mount.

brysky · 07-20-09

Thank you for the quick response, I am a gamer, and when I do start to game, I can go for 12-18 hours no problem and some times longer, Will the system keep the pc cool enough or should I just go for another water cooling system?

brysky · 07-20-09

This is the response I got from Puget Systems when I asked the same question.

We typically turn our aquarium system off when not in use, so it only sees about 8 hours per day. Additionally, we do not play games on it or stress the system very hard, so it is unknown how hot a system could get in mineral oil.

The system you describe sounds like it would fit. The major concern would be if your video cards extend beyond the motherboard. If they do, then you may run into some space issues. Additionally, do NOT put the hard drives in the mineral oil.

I don't want to be a bearer of bad news, but overall I would avoid a mineral oil system. It certainly doesn't give you a gaming performance edge and it adds a lot of complexity to your system. It has the potential to degrade components and you also void your warranty.

Thanks,

Jeff Stubbers
Puget Systems

I thought it was a bit funny they are turning someone away from there product. So was thinking of Building my own kind of case out of glass with 2 chambers, one on each side of the PC and fill the chamber with some type of cooling agent, like a small refrigerator system or fill both with giant water cooling reservoirs with a radiator and pump on the back of the case. Here is a early sketch I made real quick in paint

Now would this be a good idea or what would be the best means for cooling the system?

atlas_nathan · 07-20-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by brysky

Now would this be a good idea or what would be the best means for cooling the system?

I don't believe your design would be effective.

Version two of the puget system will, on the other hand, keep a high end gaming rig at a very low relative temperature continuously.

Even without a radiator, the mineral oil kept their system at a stable 88C. This is hot, yes. Adding a radiator, their system stabilizes at about 45-50C with the fans on 'low'.

Keep in mind that submersion cooling is different than air or water cooling. You are extracting the sum heat of the system into the working fluid, rather than just the heat dissipated into the heatsink/waterblock for the CPU/GPU.

Among other things, you're extracting the power supply heat. You'll see more consistent voltage output from a cool PSU, especially when the temperatures are consistent throughout the supply.

brysky · 07-20-09

Thanks a lot, I think I will go with the version two then.

anomie · 07-21-09

I'm in the very early planing stages of building an oil submerged system and pretty much everything makes sense to me but one very important aspect. I don't know how to install a radiator with pump. More specifically, how is the tubing hooked up? The way I think it goes is a tube submerged in the oil is hooked up to the pump which pulls the oil through then another tube exits the pump and enters the radiator and then a 3rd tube enters back into the system. Correct me if any of that is off. Also, are the tubes going in and out of the oil just submerged loosely in the oil or is it attached to anything? Lastly, the second Puget system had was an air hose: http://www.pugetsystems.com/gfx/subm.../air_valve.jpg. What is it's function, is necessary, and how is it installed?

Thanks,
-anomie

Buddharoxor · 07-26-09

A friend of mine did a build log on Bit-tech.

linking to another computer forum may be looked down upon, but its a scratch build and could provide a lot of info for you.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=163649

Beat · 07-30-09

I've actually built one of these PC's last year June. It was only for display purposes really in a friends IT shop. It attracted many visitors. Sadly I only have a few pics of it left, while It was getting built.

It was an old P4 1.8Ghz, 512Mb DDR400, 30Gb HDD, Nvida 6600 AGP(I think). It use to run a video all day/night with me building it. I'll see if I can get hold of the video.

Mine never used a Radiator so it never really cooled. It's still running to this day, however, about a 2 months ago, the silicon in the corners of the glass gave way from the oil eating away, there was apparently Mineral oil all over the show. I wouldn't recommend a glass tank, rather go plastic if you going to build. It did run rather hot over time but nothing about 45'C. So I'm not entirely sure about gaming with this stuff.

Just thought I'd add my 2c.

Pics are in the attachments.

atlas_nathan · 08-01-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat

I've actually built one of these PC's last year June. It was only for display purposes really in a friends IT shop. It attracted many visitors. Sadly I only have a few pics of it left, while It was getting built.

It was an old P4 1.8Ghz, 512Mb DDR400, 30Gb HDD, Nvida 6600 AGP(I think). It use to run a video all day/night with me building it. I'll see if I can get hold of the video.

Mine never used a Radiator so it never really cooled. It's still running to this day, however, about a 2 months ago, the silicon in the corners of the glass gave way from the oil eating away, there was apparently Mineral oil all over the show. I wouldn't recommend a glass tank, rather go plastic if you going to build. It did run rather hot over time but nothing about 45'C. So I'm not entirely sure about gaming with this stuff.

Just thought I'd add my 2c.

Pics are in the attachments.

These tanks are held together by a rubberized hot-glue. Your tank literally melted apart.

10 points for style.

Cassanova · 3 Weeks Ago

If you were to add several fish bubble units, wouldn't that cool the system considerably? It would be just like a reverse bong. Or is the oil to viscous for it to cool very well like that?

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Cassanova cough Stock cough Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 Rep: 2 Unique Rep: 2 Trader Rating: 0	If you were to add several fish bubble units, wouldn't that cool the system considerably? It would be just like a reverse bong. Or is the oil to viscous for it to cool very well like that?

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