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Old 05-13-08   #61 (permalink)
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The point of UAC in Vista was to get software developers to stop using administrative privileges for everything.


In reality, all it did was train nubs to always hit OK..


Vista's not a resource hog. My box runs it just fine, and it's f'n ancient.
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After using XP and Vista on similar machines, at similar usage levels, after similar install time, I quite prefer Vista. After a bit of tweaking, just like XP, Vista runs more smoothly, recovers from GPU resets much faster, opens programs faster, and starts up faster. It barely ever uses more than 20% of my system memory at idle, which, cost-wise, amounts to $30 of RAM. At the current prices, no one can really complain about RAM usage. If you cannot afford the extra RAM, why buy Vista in the first place?

Meh.
~1600MB?!?!?!?!? IDLE!

Right now I'm using 563 with 5 open OCN tabs, two F@H console clients, and installing GRID Demo.

And to all you talking about using your free ram, what happens when you start up a game and you don't have enough free memory left?
thats like saying that the US should stop stockpiling gasoline? I think its a good idea.

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Common amount of memory when XP was released was 256mb
Common amount of memory when Vista was released was 1GB
Now 2GB is the norm with 3GB being advertised in huge letters.

Seriously, by the time Windows 7 is released 6GB will be the norm with high end/gamers with 8-16GB.

If you have the RAM why not put it to use?
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~1600MB?!?!?!?!? IDLE!

Right now I'm using 563 with 5 open OCN tabs, two F@H console clients, and installing GRID Demo.

And to all you talking about using your free ram, what happens when you start up a game and you don't have enough free memory left?
thats like saying that the US should stop stockpiling gasoline? I think its a good idea.
I doubt you'd open a game with all that running.. 4fps ftw

Superfetch loads programs into cache.. programs request memory (CS3, CoD4, CAD, etc) and superfetch scales down to accommodate the program.

After i exit CoD4 maxed the memory usage is usually around 400mb after it unloads the game.

Please dont bash something you clearly have little knowledge on.
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Integrated GMA900 and a Pentium D if you were lucky but probably a Celeron?
That's what I'm thinking. Pentium D/Pentium 4 was probably mainstream, along with some sort of integrated graphics.

We're talking about mainstream for everyone, mind you, not mainstream for US. Let's remember that the majority of vista users are not enthusiasts. It's pointless just to talk about ourselves here.

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really ? i bought my amd 3000 and 6600gt in 2004 for $800

and now at futureshop there's a $700 with a 6750, and probably 8500gt
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I'd have to disagree. The Core 2 processors, mostly the Duos, are being hawked by all the PC manufacturers. There have been a lot of new computer purchases in the past year or two, so the Core 2 procs are abundant.
Pentium Dual-Cores are more common than C2Ds. For us, no, for most people, yes.
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Vista IS a resource hog, but NOT for the reason of superfetch. "Superfetch = memory hog" is probably the most common vista misnomer.
While Vista and Superfetch have been great for me, I still have to admit that Vista itself does use quite a bit of memory. Probably a fair amount more than it needs than if it were optimized better. I am well aware that in order to take advantage of Superfetch, you obviously need the extra space to begin with. For users like me, it matters not. But for users with older machines and less RAM, there can be space issues. IMHO, Vista could (and probably should) have been cut down at least somewhat to use less RAM, and leave more for Superfetch (and everything else). There are quite a few Vista tweak guides out there that show why it's generally using more system resources than absolutely necessary.

Don't get me wrong. I still like Vista, quite a bit. It's just not perfect.
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Don't get me wrong. I still like Vista, quite a bit. It's just not perfect.
That right there essentially sums up my feelings. I do, however, very often point out its imperfections lol
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There's also that price tag would make you feel awful if you went back to XP.
Nuh uh.. But I thank MS for that

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I'd have to disagree. The Core 2 processors, mostly the Duos, are being hawked by all the PC manufacturers. There have been a lot of new computer purchases in the past year or two, so the Core 2 procs are abundant.
Exactly. In fact, most consumer mainstream computers are sold with E6550 processors these days and the Dual Core processors are relegated to the budget side.

The computers we have in our library (Dell) have E6750s in every single one.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that Microsoft feel they can experiment with ideas that utilize more ram because it is generally accepted that you have a contemporary PC. Don't come in here with a P4 561 and 512MB of ram and expect to run Vista perfectly. Something like my PC is what is normal these days and I have no problems with Vista at all.
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Will 7 be using the NT Kernel still?
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