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Old 05-15-08   #21 (permalink)
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Notice they only do this with universities?? That's because there is no way they'd EVER get that information from a corporate ISP because of privacy issues!! There would have to be court orders for the release of that information.
They only use the automated process for Universities, they use manual processes for individuals.
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while I was too lazy to read the entire thing(lol) isn't this kind of invading the privacy of people, and their rights?

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while I was too lazy to read the entire thing(lol) isn't this kind of invading the privacy of people, and their rights?

If you share your crap on p2p that leaves all your info up for grabs for whoever wants it.
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while I was too lazy to read the entire thing(lol) isn't this kind of invading the privacy of people, and their rights?
nope not really. they are not doing anything to break crack or hack the software. it is all in how limewire is designed to work and that is by sharing files. and with that limewire also gives you the ability to see what else that user has.

anyone can do this by nature of the program.


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WHAT!?!?!??

That makes no sense at all...

There is a huge difference between doing something illegal, and when a judge finds a person guilty of doing something illegal. I'm not sure you fully understand the legal system in this country, which is not surprising. it is so convoluted on purpose, so people don't really know what their rights are in a given situation...

This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
this is NOTHING like wiretapping.
this would be considered public information. they don't monitor anything you do they don't invade you at all instead they just look at what you make public.

when you setup sharing in limewire it makes those files that are being shared open to everyone to search for. that's how limewire works.
so if I search and find a file your sharing am I doing an illegal wiretap?

once you find those files you can also browse the users others files that they have publicly available.
by seeing what other files you are sharing to the world is that monitoring your traffic?


this is just like deciding to build the meth lab in your front lawn and then saying the cops have no right to take your stuff or arrest you cause to see what you do in your front lawn requires a subpoena.
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so why can't ppl just use emule or BT with encrypted connection?
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Just go to tools>options>uploads>slots on limewire and put everything on 0, or as soon as u download the song or w/e you are downloading cut and paste to a different folder,

PS: if this is going against the rules of overclock.net then admin please delete this post.
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WHAT!?!?!??

That makes no sense at all...

There is a huge difference between doing something illegal, and when a judge finds a person guilty of doing something illegal. I'm not sure you fully understand the legal system in this country, which is not surprising. it is so convoluted on purpose, so people don't really know what their rights are in a given situation...

This is kinda like illegal wire tapping. If some agency/individual thinks you are doing something illegal (down loading music) they need to show proof to a judge so they can get a warrant to raid your computer to get those songs they think you have downloaded illegally. In order to get that initial information you need to show to a judge that issues the warrant is the grey area. the RIAA thinks they can do whatever they want, regardless of the local laws/user agreements...

Unless you sign away your rights via a strange user agreement when you tap into your collages network, nobody has a right to look at your traffic, just like no one is allowed to listen to your phone calls...
By choosing to use limewire you are making your shared files and IP available to the public. Not only is it ok for the RIAA to see what all you are sharing, but ANYONE can do that. I believe limewire warns you of this right when you install it, that's the idea behind P2P. Nothing illegal about it at all, the RIAA is allowed to use the program just as much as anyone else is
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lol I wonder why they didn't mention torrents at all. Most people know that they listen on torrent trackers as well. Atleast on public trackers :-p.

Limewire is outdated, full of malware, and targeted the most by RIAA. What is the point of using it? Torrents and UseNet is where it's at.
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What if I paid for the songs, or ripped them off a CD I own, and just happen to run LimeWire, which automatically searches for songs on my computer?

This process is bull****. This happened with Napster and Metallica. I legally own the Black Album by Metallica, but back in the day I had no ripping software, so I decided to simply download it. Then one day while running Napster I get a message that I've been banned from Napster for illegally owning Metallica songs. Complete bull****, that is all I have to say.

It is a good thing I hate most of the popular songs today, and buy all my stuff on iTunes or CDs.
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as far as im concerned if they actually follow what they said there with universities than i think they are doing nothing wrong. They are looking at stuff you make public. Now there fines and crap are rediculous but as far as this article goes i think they are well within their rights and it is definitely legal and in now way a breach of privacy.

edit: also not knowing a program does something is not an excuse. Unless it is not documented anywhere. But if you research that it does it you should know what programs you are using are capable of.
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