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Old 11-24-08   #41 (permalink)
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well, besides the overpricing and customization, i don't see why not. actually, they look ok for rich college students
What it really is, is that Apple lacks a just standard desktop pc. This makes them hard to compare because people cant really just build a all in one like the iMac, but Dell and HP both have competitors that are priced the same.

But basically, saying Apple is overpriced is just like saying HP and Dell are overpriced.. Of course building your own computer will cost less.
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There are people that are going to need (well not need) but want Mac for what it can do. The rest of the world doesnt Video edit and such and most companies need Windows. Windows isn't being hurt by this as much as Apple Lovers might think. We all know that their basis probably didn't buy a their copy anyways and came oem w/ their last computer.
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I don't think he was talking about servers.
I know that. That's what I'm asking: why are we making it specific now? Because it benefits vista. We don't make it specific when it might benefit another OS.

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And then there are the people who will say "but I don't want to spend $2500 on a Mac Pro when I can buy an equal PC for half the price". I think there are a lot of people willing to use Premiere or Vegas if its going to save them $1000.
That's nice and all, but that's a weird comparison: a personal computer compared to a server-grade workstation.

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Is it really Microsoft's fault that companies like Dell ship their OS with bloatware, or on computers that really have no business running Vista?
I specifically said that that isn't m$'s fault. I, in fact, blamed the OEMs for that. M$ was partly to blame for lowering the "vista capable/ready" sticker requirement, though.

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have probably never really tried it, or have had a bad experience once.
You must be a little late to this thread and didn't read it. Because we already went over this.

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What it really is, is that Apple lacks a just standard desktop pc. This makes them hard to compare because people cant really just build a all in one like the iMac, but Dell and HP both have competitors that are priced the same.

But basically, saying Apple is overpriced is just like saying HP and Dell are overpriced.. Of course building your own computer will cost less.
actually if you really wanted mac os x, you can get a psystar open pc: http://store.psystar.com/
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And why's that?

Do you even have a legitimate reason other than the bs that thousands of others have been blurting out?
They are garbage. Overpriced doorstops. I'm not going to spend $1800.00 on somthing just to use a unix based OS. I'm also not going to spend $1800.00 + and not be able to upgrade things without a compatability issue. There is not one advantage what so ever of a mac. Anything a mac can do a PC can do better.

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actually if you really wanted mac os x, you can get a psystar open pc: http://store.psystar.com/
Hmm.. No 1st party apple support.. No thanks lol.

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They are garbage. Overpriced doorstops. I'm not going to spend $1800.00 on somthing just to use a unix based OS. I'm also not going to spend $1800.00 + and not be able to upgrade things without a compatability issue. There is not one advantage what so ever of a mac. Anything a mac can do a PC can do better.

Now I'm ready for the crying fanboy's who are going to come at me.
You can upgrade just about anything in a Mac, depending on what you get and how resourceful you are.

And besides, basically your entire argument also goes for PC OEM's.

So its not just Apple, your saying that about all OEM's.

See, your just a little pc fanatic who is incapable of seeing anything except gaming and benchmarks. People *SURPRISE* use their computers for more things than that, and the first party Apple software works very well, and comes with it, along with its easy to learn and use, while being pretty powerful.

So again, give me a legit reason, not just a bias reason that you DONT even support. Not like I was really expecting you to post anything productive except something along the lines of "mac's suck". Im surprised you didnt say they have right click .
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Do you ever do anything but try to start flame wars on these forums? You obviously are a mac fanboy so why don't you make your way over to the mac forums and talk with people that actuall give a f.

I dont want OSX and I dont want a mac ever. Why cant you deal with that? Also I am reporting you for trolling and trying to start a flame war that I dont want to engage in.

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I've never really like OS X, dunno why...I guess I'm a bit too used to Windows, but that's just my theory.

I go to Cal, and there's probably 5 or 6 Macs out of 10 notebooks in most of my classes. I've been asked why I didn't get a MacBook, I mean I have a Lenovo Thinkpad (P8400, 4GB, 250GB HD, w/ the 3470...only paid $1k for it last month) and it cost less than getting a high end MacBook or one with similar specs; besides my Thinkpad it gets the job done and then some. Microsoft Office 2007 works the same, except I don't have to learn all the short cuts or any new combination of keys lol. I've never understood, in terms of productivity what can a Mac do that a PC can't? And vice versa.
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They are garbage. Overpriced doorstops. I'm not going to spend $1800.00 on somthing just to use a unix based OS. I'm also not going to spend $1800.00 + and not be able to upgrade things without a compatability issue. There is not one advantage what so ever of a mac. Anything a mac can do a PC can do better.
Then don't spend $1800. Spend a third of that, $600:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ni?mco=MTE3MTA

But then again, if you want a gaming PC where you can change the graphics card and CPU and everything, of course a custom build is the obvious choice.

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I dont want OSX and I dont want a mac ever. Why cant you deal with that?
Anyone can deal with that, sure. But I think the problem is where you start lying, saying $1800 this, "garbage systems" that, all without a shred of evidence or reason why. It's one thing to say, "I simply don't prefer X," but it's another to lie.

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Now I'm ready for the crying fanboy's who are going to come at me.
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Also I am reporting you for trolling and trying to start a flame war that I dont want to engage in.
Didn't think so.
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Gunner we already had our arguments. So don't get involved. I proved you wrong many other times and personally I dont feel like doing it again.

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