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This is a great feature for windows 7.

Also stupid Intel for mot putting VT in every proc like AMD. They are holding the market back in that respect.
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Honestly if you have a winxp key I would suggest using virtual pc. It is much better.

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Honestly if you have a winxp key I would suggest using virtual pc. It is much better.
XP Mode uses Virtual PC and doesn't require a key.

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This is a great feature for windows 7.

Also stupid Intel for mot putting VT in every proc like AMD. They are holding the market back in that respect.
It saved them money and/or sold cheaper chips. However, Intel started to include virtualization in more of their chips when they found out. I believe they had re-released some processors with a new SKU for virtualization.
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wow i can't believe, for the longest since win7 beta's and RC1 were out, still so many ppl are NOT informed with XP virt. within win7 or doesn't even know what it is/ does..I AM SURPRISED!
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Well, well, look at that... now people who've religiously stuck to XP for the last 5,000 aeons have no reason not to upgrade to Windows 7 now.

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This really doesn't change anything. It's a virtual machine. If you're going to run XP in 7, you might as well run XP native.
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This really doesn't change anything. It's a virtual machine. If you're going to run XP in 7, you might as well run XP native.
How about if you don't have a XP license?

Or if 98% of your work can be done in W7?

Or if you just want encapsulation?


Be extention of your logic.... VM are never needed because you should just run OSes natively.
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How about if you don't have a XP license?

Or if 98% of your work can be done in W7?

Or if you just want encapsulation?

Be extention of your logic.... VM are never needed because you should just run OSes natively.
I was just speaking of how things work for me, but I'll humor you I suppose. I think most people would be hard pressed to not have an XP license, since it is pretty old. 100% of my work can be done in XP, with no further cost to me. For encapsulation, you've been able to do that with VirtualPC for free, for a long time. For the OS, you could easily use any Linux distro, or even use something like a Server 2008 trial.

"XP Mode" (such a horrible name in my opinion), just caters to those who were unaware of the existence of virtual machines. Virtual machines have their uses, but "upgrading" to 7, then using a virtual machine for something that may not work is one hell of a round-about way of doing things. It's a useful tool, but people act like this is the absolute reason that people should ditch XP.
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if you get a virus or something it will tank your XP mode and not your actual install. i think the term is known as sandboxing...
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I was just speaking of how things work for me, but I'll humor you I suppose. I think most people would be hard pressed to not have an XP license, since it is pretty old. 100% of my work can be done in XP, with no further cost to me. For encapsulation, you've been able to do that with VirtualPC for free, for a long time. For the OS, you could easily use any Linux distro, or even use something like a Server 2008 trial.

"XP Mode" (such a horrible name in my opinion), just caters to those who were unaware of the existence of virtual machines. Virtual machines have their uses, but "upgrading" to 7, then using a virtual machine for something that may not work is one hell of a round-about way of doing things. It's a useful tool, but people act like this is the absolute reason that people should ditch XP.
However, if you an enterprise... you still would need to pay to maintain both XP and Windows 7 licences. The vast majority of enterprises do not run Linux for the desktop. Server 2008 would cost hundreds of millions if it were for a corporate desktop.


Do not forget that the primary purpose of XP Mode is to cater to business that have XP compatilibility as a requirement.


Does standard VirtualPC allow you to directly launch an application in the VM?
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However, if you an enterprise... you still would need to pay to maintain both XP and Windows 7 licences. The vast majority of enterprises do not run Linux for the desktop. Server 2008 would cost hundreds of millions if it were for a corporate desktop.


Do not forget that the primary purpose of XP Mode is to cater to business that have XP compatilibility as a requirement.


Does standard VirtualPC allow you to directly launch an application in the VM?
I understand this has uses on the enterprise level, and it does make encapsulation very convenient. My qualm with XP mode is that people believe that now that this is freely available, everybody on XP should leave it and upgrade to 7. 7 offers nothing that I want/need, it's that simple. Cost isn't an issue, because I have approx. 5 licenses for Pro/Ultimate at my disposal.

The last time I tried "XP mode", you literally see the UI for Virtual PC, so it probably does. I don't know with certainty, since I tend to use VMWare Workstation or VirtualBox, anyway.
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