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*Murlocke* · 05-17-08

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Originally Posted by JoeUbi

Confusing? Not too much.

http://xs.vc/eac/

There is a guide that will lead you through every step in the process of setting up a "Proper" rip using EAC. It'll also show you how to output a .log and a .cue file so you can make a copy of the CD identically to the original.

Also V0 and 320 KB/s have nearly the same quality. If I recall correctly, V0 retains 92% of the original quality, while 320 retains about 94% of the original quality. The main difference is the size of the file, V0 files are about 25-30% smaller. V0 is a much better encoder setting than 320.

FYI: V0 = LAME encoder "Extreme Setting"

Yea, V0 seems to be the most popular. My entire music collection is in lossless though because i'm picky like that.

ElMikeTheMike · 05-17-08

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Originally Posted by Highly-Annoyed

With respect, I'm a bit dubious about this statement. Do you have any proof to support it? Everything I've read about people being able to tell different MP3 versions apart shows that, actually, the majority can't tell the difference. Certainly, most people can't tell the difference between 320kbps MP3 and lossless, based on what I've read anyway.

I tend to agree, but I think the quality of the speakers or headphones you're listening to play a huge part as well. If you've got a crappy set of either, you're unlikely to tell the difference between 320 vs 192.

*Murlocke* · 05-17-08

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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike

I tend to agree, but I think the quality of the speakers or headphones you're listening to play a huge part as well. If you've got a crappy set of either, you're unlikely to tell the difference between 320 vs 192.

In my car I cannot tell the difference between 320kbps and 192kbps, on my computer and home theater it's a clear difference. I use stock speakers of course in my car.

I have klipsch promedia 5.1 Ultra speakers for my computer, which are some of the best "boxed" speakers you can get for the computer and there is a very small difference between lossless and 320KBPS on them. However on my Home Theater speakers (Roughly $3,000 for the speakers/sub/receiver) there is a clear difference.

So I agree, no point in getting lossless music or even 320kbps if you are on $20 speakers.

triggerc · 05-17-08

Yeah, the better your equipment scales the more noticeable the difference between different recording qualities become. 128kbps sound truely crappy with a decent setup.

Namrac · 05-17-08

Headphones are also generally easier to spot the differences with than speakers, in my experience. Of course, I've got a loooooot more experience with quality headphones than I do quality speakers.

*Duckydude* · 05-17-08

This is what a 24 bit, 96khz wave file looks like for anybody that is interested:

The red arrows shows where a CD quality file (16 bit 44.1Khz) would cut off at, as a 16 bit environment only stores audio data up to around 22000hz. A 24 bit enviornment stores audio data up to around 48000hz. I ripped this file from a DVD-Audio disc of Once Upon A Time - Simple Minds.

jhotmann21 · 05-19-08

luckily my hearing isnt the greatest due to too many loud band practices and concerts so they all sound the same to me! downside is ill be deaf if i get to age 70

JoeUbi · 06-17-08

Holy poop this is some crazy good fidelity. Notice how there are no mastering lines. This is from a Vinyl Rip I am currently working on, it's Yes - Yessongs for those interested.

Namrac · 06-17-08

Mmmmmmmmmmm vinyl.

Shin2k35 · 11-10-08

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Originally Posted by Odyn

Also, you want to look out for this little bugger here:

Do you see the line going through it? It means that the original source (what the recording was taken from, whether it be master tape, CD etc), was NOT a lossless format, and thus its considered lossy and not very good. Just my $0.02

Anyone mention that FLAC is also lossy? There's a compression ratio of about 60% or similar. The only true lossless is WAV, iirc.

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