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Old 01-04-09   #21 (permalink)
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It is probably possible, but I don't know much about these EMU card. The modd for the Audigy ZS may work though, but better check daniel_k's blog



This particular Live! I mentioned at the very beginning of the thread, is the lowest end of the live series, and the P17 chis has absolutely no hardware processor, all is made on the CPU. The EMUs are hardware sound processors, thus the cards based on them have some more features and better quality (some say). In stead of the marketing name (audigy, live...) you should search a modd for your own emu10k1 chip.
Yup live 24 bits are the newest live cards and the worse btw, the same than audigy value se, and the other cards metioned here. They are not much better than onboard sound cards in terms of performance (no hardware acceleration). In fact i would avoid any of them, as i would not consider them as a real audigy or live card but a rebranded third party card.

Do you remember what hapened with ensoniq cards when creative bought them? Well they rebranded ensoniq cards to sound blaster 128 pci and did some customized drivers, and then they let them die. (does this remember you to any other cards?) I had a sb128 pci with an ensoniq 1370 chipset, it had 4 speakers output and was much better compared to the most common sound blaster 128 pci here ct4810. As allways creative ruined this card not allowing windows xp to use the 4 channels.

The live i was talking about is the old live 5.1 card, with the emu10k1 chipset, i think most of the live cards has the same chipset. I think they are much better cards than audigy se or live 24 bits for the medium user. They lack 24 bits output and they dont have updated drivers, but they have hardware acceleration, a midi port and some unnoficial drivers like kx that make the card sound much better.

Daniel_k modded some drivers for live series to work much better in vista but he doesn't mention anything about crystalizer on vista or xp for that cards.

It´s a pity that creative ruined live cards support and drivers just to sell newer cards. They are very good and can do much better job that other newer card.

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I cant wait to try this. I have an Audigy2 zs.
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I've got both an Audigy 2 (in the computer now) and a Live! Value. I'll be trying out the Audigy first with post #6 and if it doesn't work, I'll try out the Live! Value.

This is way too cool, thanks drago!
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Thanks myfreelog for the history lesson, I wasn't aware Creative bought/rebranded in the past. I agree the EMU10k1 chip is vastly superior to the lowly P17 that as you say, in terms of features has nothing over onboard sound. However, the fact they have their own PCB and separate mass planes, and also better filtering stages makes it supperior to the best onboard sound. Hope we'll see you around this forum.

@mantis747, FetusSoup: hope it works, and gives us feedback please I have no means to test the post 6 modd, I'd appreciate to know if it's doable.

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Audigy 2 works like a charm with post #6

Thank you so much, this is so awesome. I'm still playing around with the Crystalizer but all I can say is WOW. This thing is nuts and it totally adds depth to all music, can't wait to test it out with games.

Thank you so much again dragosmp (and daniel_k!) +1 to you good sir, and I'll be testing out the Live! Value once I get my new parts next week and build my HTPC with it in there from the old parts.
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Thanks for the reply FetusSoup, now we know it works on an Audigy 2. Good luck with the Live! too.

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Downloading these drivers now. I've been umming and arring about trying an ancient SB Live! card I pulled out of a PII machine in my junk pile to see if it would work in my rig to just offload a little bit of drain from my poor little P4 running the crappy RealTek onboard.
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Downloading these drivers now. I've been umming and arring about trying an ancient SB Live! card I pulled out of a PII machine in my junk pile to see if it would work in my rig to just offload a little bit of drain from my poor little P4 running the crappy RealTek onboard.
If your aim is to offload, I would advice against using this modd - this modd LOADS the CPU with additional software instructions. The idea is that you gain sound features while sacrificing a few CPU cycles,. On a 2 year old x2 4400+ is invisible, but on a P4...

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Bugger


Might get this then - http://www.redstore.com/SWESDC066
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Too bad the X-Fi console is only for vista (Post #6)
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