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Old 06-29-09   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I'm in the search for a quality DAC with no built in amp. They will be used with my Denon D2000's. Budget is $200 max. I was searching for the Denon DA-500 DAC but can't find it ANYWHERE. So if you have one, or know someone looking to sell on, lemme know. Thanks!
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hay just letting you know soloz2 would be the best person to ask. but i highly recommend you just going to www.head-fi.org and ask them there. they will give you a better responce.

also would you be willing to make a dac or do you just wana buy it?

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v-dac perhaps, not sure how much it costs in US
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hay just letting you know soloz2 would be the best person to ask. but i highly recommend you just going to www.head-fi.org and ask them there. they will give you a better responce.

also would you be willing to make a dac or do you just wana buy it?
Make? Maybe, I would def. have to practice soldering, but how would it compare to a purchased DAC?
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Make? Maybe, I would def. have to practice soldering, but how would it compare to a purchased DAC?
making one may be a little tedus and you have to be able to read electronic layouts. there are some that you can do for around $100 to a lot more. if you dont wana make on a compass is a "nice" one from what i here.

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Check used in the Head-Fi classifieds source section. This one, for example, looks pretty good: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f43/fs...04-usb-431524/
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I owned an E-MU 0404 USB at one point, and yes I did enjoy it. But now, after having heard what I've heard and knowing what I know, I think it's worth saving up more cash, expanding the budget, and looking for a DA500, TransDac, or Parasound 1100. From there you can add something more budget oriented in for your amp section, like a Little Dot or something DIY.
Sorry, not what i'm looking for I don't think.
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I bought my DAC on ebay for $70 shipped, including a power supply board and transformer. It is based on a CS4397/CS8416, and it also has an op-amp output stage, which can be easily bypassed for direct DAC out.

I simply put it in a cigar box, removed the 4 little capacitors that connect the DAC to the op-amp, and then soldered the output wires directly to the pins on the DAC chip. Voila, DAC direct with no amp. This works because the CS4397 is a voltage-out DAC. Current-out DACs cannot be run directly from the pins, as they require I/V conversion first.

Anyway, it's inexpensive and sounds INCREDIBLE. It's the same DAC in the $250 Zahlou, and in even more expensive name-brand designs. It beats more than half of the high-grade DAC kits on ebay, and is the cheapest. The only chips that beat it are the PCM1794/2, WM8741 and the TDA1541.

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I bought my DAC on ebay for $70 shipped, including a power supply board and transformer. It is based on a CS4397/CS8416, and it also has an op-amp output stage, which can be easily bypassed for direct DAC out.

I simply put it in a cigar box, removed the 4 little capacitors that connect the DAC to the op-amp, and then soldered the output wires directly to the pins on the DAC chip. Voila, DAC direct with no amp. This works because the CS4397 is a voltage-out DAC. Current-out DACs cannot be run directly from the pins, as they require I/V conversion first.

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You can contact me for any and all questions about it, and you can also get a good information about mods here: http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/...ampizator.html
I'm not too sure about all that, but I guess I'm not one to judge. Thanks for the suggestions, i'll keep it in mind.
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what inputs and outputs do you need? I can't think of too many quality commercial DACs at that price. If you increase your price to $300-400 you would have better luck, or maybe look for used.

For $200 you could probably make AMB's new DAC.
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