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My Windows partition decided that it was a good time to crash and burn, so I'm back to only using my Linux partition. However, I don't have time to maintain a bleeding edge system like Arch.

Is there a decently-stable distribution that isn't quite bleeding edge, but uses up-to-date packages?

I've been looking at Debian and Fedora primarily (Slackware too, but I haven't done any research on it). To any *BSD users, how difficult/involved is it to maintain a system after the initial install? (I very briefly tried FreeBSD, I really liked using Ports, but opted for Arch as it was an easier option at the time)

(I don't have a preference for binary/source based package management)
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post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by Prolog View Post
My Windows partition decided that it was a good time to crash and burn, so I'm back to only using my Linux partition. However, I don't have time to maintain a bleeding edge system like Arch.

Is there a decently-stable distribution that isn't quite bleeding edge, but uses up-to-date packages?

I've been looking at Debian and Fedora primarily (Slackware too, but I haven't done any research on it). To any *BSD users, how difficult/involved is it to maintain a system after the initial install? (I very briefly tried FreeBSD, I really liked using Ports, but opted for Arch as it was an easier option at the time)

(I don't have a preference for binary/source based package management)
As you said, you can't really go wrong with any Debian derivative (Ubuntu, for example).
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Are you wanting a rolling-release or not? That right there narrows it down dramatically. Rolling is great in that there's no "new version" crap, but it requires more work from the user often.
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post #4 of 21
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Rolling release is preferred, yes.
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sabayon is nice
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post #6 of 21
Quote:
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Is there a decently-stable distribution that isn't quite bleeding edge, but uses up-to-date packages?
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Rolling release is preferred, yes.
These two are very hard to find together. Rolling release implies bleeding edge, after all.

Anyway, it's for just this reason that I chose Fedora. Maintaining a Gentoo box was getting to be too much trouble, and I needed a reasonably stable environment to work with. And of course I tried Ubuntu and while it's all right, I still prefer Fedora. But that's just me.
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post #7 of 21
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@3dfxvoodoo,

I'll look into Sabayon, thanks.

@error10,

Unfortunately, I think thats the case. For a while, I was using easynews as my main server for Pacman, and they'd usually delay updates by a few days in case there were any packages that caused breakages. Sadly it looks like it hasn't been touched in a while, and switching over to a different server has borked most of my programs.

I'm kind of glad I've given up on Xmonad; updating GHC was one of the more hellish experiences I've had with a computer.
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post #8 of 21
You can still have the best of both worlds if you stick with the previous release of Fedora. I never really have issues with them, but the releases overlap in maintenance so you can pick 13, 14 or the alpha of 15 right now.

Just add the two rpmfusion repos (free and non-free) and you're golden.
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I highly recommend Slackware. It is a lot like Arch as it also follows a KISS principle. Slackware is also rock stable. For me, everything has just worked perfectly.
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You know you don't have to update Arch right?

I only do it for bug fixes and major releases. For the most part all of the update will just "work". The only ones you have to watch out for are new releases of xorg and whatever distro you use, since they can break driver compatibility.

The only thing I don't like about Arch right now is that they updated to Xorg 1.10 despite the fact that it breaks the ATI, nVidia, and even VirtualBox drivers. Then they removed the nVidia drivers from [extra] because they don't work. Idiocy.


I tried out Fedora and Debian, but they aren't designed for single user environments, so you have to jump through hoops if you want to get anything serious done. You'll find you have less control over your OS than you would like. I actually found them more difficult than Arch, since in Arch everything is clear and unambiguous and nothing can compare to pacman.
    
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