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post #81 of 101
Stop putting money where money isn't needed. You're buying random expensive stuff just to have the most expensive PC and accessories

The IV Extreme, IMO, is not worth the huge price tag at all. Just get a Deluxe. It's fine
If you say you will OC, you don't even have a method of cooling. Go WC'ing
Add another 6990 for XFire
16GB is totally unnecessary. Get 8GB, especially since you say he games, and that's it. 8GB is already overkill
Remove the 7.1 SS
Raid Spinpoint F3s
Remove the X and get a 932
Remove the blu-ray drive
Remove the router
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$1,199.98
$979.98
($489.99 each)

(thats WITH 2 revo drives for raid 0 revo's) pwned. (plus 2 2tb drives for 4tb raid0 data)[/B]
Just a note, I'm fairly certain you could only use 1 revodrive. At least that is the case with the maximus since putting it in any slot other than the 4x slot at the bottom and the card is not recognized. (at least that is the case for me)

Also, the revodrive already runs as a raid 0 array. The 240GB drive in particular shows up as 4 - 55GB SSD's in raid 0 during POST. Also using the revodrive prevents you from using aftermarket GPU coolers if you run an SLi setup on the maximus because most decent aftermarket air GPU coolers require 3 slots and there simply isn't room with the revodrive (unless you go with a single slot watercooling solution). You can also forget about running a triple SLi setup unless you plan on watercooling your cards.

Honestly if I could go back and do my build over again, I would have waited for the new OCZ Vertex 3's and got two of them to run in raid 0. Would of been faster than my revo and none of the slot issues.
Edited by MaltIR - 4/26/11 at 8:35am
    
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post #83 of 101
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Originally Posted by M3i5 View Post
yeah i had the same reaction when i heard the 3000-4000 part
but this guy is 22 and he drives a c63 amg
anyways, he plays games...that's about it
that's why i decided to go all out on the gpu and ssd, and stay good enough for the cpu
this is what i got so far for him:

EDITED:

i7 2600k cpu (will oc for sure)
asus maximus iv extreme
corsair vengeance 2x4gb ddr3-1866 CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 (2sets for 16gb)
sapphire hd 6990 (unlocked)
asus xonar essence st 7.1
corsair ax1200
intel 510 series 240gb
2x wdc blue 1tb WD10EALX (pretty cheap, so chose this over green 2tb)
cm haf x case
asus 12x bluray burner BW-12B1LT/BLK/B/AS
tp link wireless TL-WN722N (just in case)

after 13% tax (canada) comes to just under $3400 if aspm with ncix

rest $600 will go to wc?


you hit on a few items, but this build is fail IMO for what you are spending

Re-group with higher expectations and get over the SLI phobia 2x 580 is simply da baum

edit:

Throw this together quickly but this could use a bit of tweaking yet

CPU 2600K MC has them on sale if close to one for $ 269.99
MB: for a gamer this would be a great choice as you can get separation and 2x 16 slots
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131714
Memory: 2133 anything less would be uncivilized
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227550
OS Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-601-_-Product
Game drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227552
Music/Data
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136557
Sound card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102024
2x Video Cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127579
Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139014
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139001
3x Monitors
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824005196
Keys and mouse are personal so I would let him supply those
Any DVD burner and Blue ray for disk to disk ease
I would use a top rated air to air system as Sandy does well on air
D14 would reap 4.4 to 4.6 24/7 at decent voltage, the cards are good at stock speeds
Edited by Witchdoctor - 4/26/11 at 9:21am
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Subtotal: $2,984.69
+400 for asus maximus mobo

3384.69

(thats WITH 2 revo drives for raid 0 revo's) pwned. (plus 2 2tb drives for 4tb raid0 data)

and i covered win7 and office.. PS. the asus maximus is currently out of stock.
bro, how many times do i gotta say i'm in canada before you comprehend?
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post #85 of 101
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smart build. glad to see the HAF X ditched, as well as the ati card. dont "unlock" cards for customers, or anything like that.

personally, i would upgrade to WD Blacks. i heard they are MUCH more reliable. and they are faster. for the slight price increase, i would switch to two 500 GB WD Blacks and RAID 0 them for speed. they will keep up with the SSD just about. mine were effin speedy.

if you dont want to go the SR1 route, stick with the sandy bridge and a nice MB but get the guy a slick sound card. im sure he has a phat system at home and will want one.

nothing better to do with excess money than make sure you can FEEL all the explosions in games >
well for storage, black/blue doesn't really matter
and the blue i picked is 64mb cache just like black, it's benchmark is pretty high comparable to black
as well, buying 2 of it is cheaper than 1 black 2tb

rest money will go to a water cooling system he already agreed
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post #86 of 101
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woah. This build just is not worth the money in my opinion. Especially with a screen already there and no more needing to be bought. Idk what to say.
i don't know where you are from but parts are pretty expensive here and tax is not low either

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invisible View Post
Stop putting money where money isn't needed. You're buying random expensive stuff just to have the most expensive PC and accessories

The IV Extreme, IMO, is not worth the huge price tag at all. Just get a Deluxe. It's fine
If you say you will OC, you don't even have a method of cooling. Go WC'ing
Add another 6990 for XFire
16GB is totally unnecessary. Get 8GB, especially since you say he games, and that's it. 8GB is already overkill
Remove the 7.1 SS
Raid Spinpoint F3s
Remove the X and get a 932
Remove the blu-ray drive
Remove the router
if the guy is saying he wants a 3000-4000 build, why drop down to 2000? he's a friend so i'm not making any money off this

and yes i did indicate rest money will go to wc so i don't know what you mean by i don't even have a method of cooling

8gb vs 16gb .. that's not compeltely decided yet will see how things go might grab 1 set or might grab 2

he wants a good soundcard, why remove the xonar?

no spinpoint here

when it comes to a case this expensive, it's rli all about looks and he wants the x

remove the bluray? he plays bluray movies

he wants a wireless because when he goes to school he doesn't have access to cable internet in his room

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Just a note, I'm fairly certain you could only use 1 revodrive. At least that is the case with the maximus since putting it in any slot other than the 4x slot at the bottom and the card is not recognized. (at least that is the case for me)

Also, the revodrive already runs as a raid 0 array. The 240GB drive in particular shows up as 4 - 55GB SSD's in raid 0 during POST. Also using the revodrive prevents you from using aftermarket GPU coolers if you run an SLi setup on the maximus because most decent aftermarket air GPU coolers require 3 slots and there simply isn't room with the revodrive (unless you go with a single slot watercooling solution). You can also forget about running a triple SLi setup unless you plan on watercooling your cards.

Honestly if I could go back and do my build over again, I would have waited for the new OCZ Vertex 3's and got two of them to run in raid 0. Would of been faster than my revo and none of the slot issues.
he wants intel's reliability and he says he does not even want anything from ocz ever again (yes bad experience do STRONGLY change people's opinion)
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post #87 of 101
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There should be a way to revoke membership. You need to be banned. Get out of here.


To OP: I'm not seeing a custom water cooling loop OP (angry voice). For 4k you'd have a very pathetic system if it wasn't water cooled.

Once you get components finalized, the water cooling shopping list will ensue. Depending in the number of gpu blocks plus if your going with chipset blocks, reserve around $600-$800 for water cooling equipment.
seriously. recommending ibuypower on ocn =
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Originally Posted by Witchdoctor View Post
you hit on a few items, but this build is fail IMO for what you are spending

Re-group with higher expectations and get over the SLI phobia 2x 580 is simply da baum

edit:

Throw this together quickly but this could use a bit of tweaking yet

CPU 2600K MC has them on sale if close to one for $ 269.99
MB: for a gamer this would be a great choice as you can get separation and 2x 16 slots
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131714
Memory: 2133 anything less would be uncivilized
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227550
OS Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-601-_-Product
Game drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227552
Music/Data
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136557
Sound card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102024
2x Video Cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127579
Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139014
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139001
3x Monitors
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824005196
Keys and mouse are personal so I would let him supply those
Any DVD burner and Blue ray for disk to disk ease
I would use a top rated air to air system as Sandy does well on air
D14 would reap 4.4 to 4.6 24/7 at decent voltage, the cards are good at stock speeds
he already has samsung xl30, this is just for the "machine" itself and we're in canada so pricing is completely different
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Guys, just b/c he wants do spend $3-4k on the PC doesn't mean it all has to go into the core components. A lot of people are posting awesome builds and suggesting custom WC loops that they really want to build, but that may not be what your friend really wants or needs.

What I mean by that is this: you're getting an i7 2600k, a lot of ram, a fast SSD, and a very powerful GPU, that much is set. But there's no need to buy things that are unnecessarily expensive just to drive up the cost.

That mobo for example, cost $350+, and might give you an extra 100mhz on the OC when compared to an Asrock Extreme 6 or a Gigabyte UD5 board that has just as many features and will perform just as well. That's unnecessary spending.

And the SSD. 250gb is great, but unless he wants to install all of his games on there, you don't need that much space. But this is not as bad as the mobo choice.

And water cooling - it's great for temps and noise (if you choose the right components and case), but one it adds a lot of cost (good loops can start from $600 and up, especially since you're from Canada) and two, it adds a lot more maintenance. If he's the kind of guy that doesn't really like to tinker w/ his PC all the time, it may be more trouble than it's worth.

Here's my suggestion: focus on the experience rather than the pure component specs.

What's his monitor setup? Maybe get him 3x 24" IPS panels, or even 3x 30" screens if he's really that rich.

What's his sound system? Spend some cash on a nice 7.1 surround setup. Wireless if you really want to have everything super neat looking.

What kind of keyboard/mouse/mousepad does he have? Get him a great gaming mechanical keyboard like the Deck Legend, a really nice mouse like the G9x or G500. etc...

The point this this: unless he enjoys opening up his case every day like a lot of people here on OCN, the experience he gets from gaming will mostly depend on the monitor/s and peripherals. Next will how loud his case is when under load. As long as you've got the same core components (CPU/RAM/SSD/GPU) and games run smooth, he won't notice the difference b/t 4.5ghz and 5.3ghz or 6950CFX vs 6990.

So here's what I recommend:

Get an i5 2500K and an Asrock Extreme 6 mobo, grab a pair of 6950 2gbs (Get the Twin Frozr ones for quiet and cool goodness), 8gb of RAM for less than $100, a nice SSD and put the rest of the money into a nice set of 24" IPS monitors for Eyefinity and a good case like the FT-02 for awesome and quiet air cooling.

*Edit: didn't see that he already has a 30". In that case look into maybe 2x more screens haha? Probably over his budget, but if he drives an AMG C63 then why not.
Edited by ebolamonkey3 - 4/26/11 at 11:09am
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Guys, just b/c he wants do spend $3-4k on the PC doesn't mean it all has to go into the core components. A lot of people are posting awesome builds and suggesting custom WC loops that they really want to build, but that may not be what your friend really wants or needs.

What I mean by that is this: you're getting an i7 2600k, a lot of ram, a fast SSD, and a very powerful GPU, that much is set. But there's no need to buy things that are unnecessarily expensive just to drive up the cost.

That mobo for example, cost $350+, and might give you an extra 100mhz on the OC when compared to an Asrock Extreme 6 or a Gigabyte UD5 board that has just as many features and will perform just as well. That's unnecessary spending.

And the SSD. 250gb is great, but unless he wants to install all of his games on there, you don't need that much space. But this is not as bad as the mobo choice.

And water cooling - it's great for temps and noise (if you choose the right components and case), but one it adds a lot of cost (good loops can start from $600 and up, especially since you're from Canada) and two, it adds a lot more maintenance. If he's the kind of guy that doesn't really like to tinker w/ his PC all the time, it may be more trouble than it's worth.

Here's my suggestion: focus on the experience rather than the pure component specs.

What's his monitor setup? Maybe get him 3x 24" IPS panels, or even 3x 30" screens if he's really that rich.

What's his sound system? Spend some cash on a nice 7.1 surround setup. Wireless if you really want to have everything super neat looking.

What kind of keyboard/mouse/mousepad does he have? Get him a great gaming mechanical keyboard like the Deck Legend, a really nice mouse like the G9x or G500. etc...

The point this this: unless he enjoys opening up his case every day like a lot of people here on OCN, the experience he gets from gaming will mostly depend on the monitor/s and peripherals. Next will how loud his case is when under load. As long as you've got the same core components (CPU/RAM/SSD/GPU) and games run smooth, he won't notice the difference b/t 4.5ghz and 5.3ghz or 6950CFX vs 6990.

So here's what I recommend:

Get an i5 2500K and an Asrock Extreme 6 mobo, grab a pair of 6950 2gbs (Get the Twin Frozr ones for quiet and cool goodness), 8gb of RAM for less than $100, a nice SSD and put the rest of the money into a nice set of 24" IPS monitors for Eyefinity and a good case like the FT-02 for awesome and quiet air cooling.

*Edit: didn't see that he already has a 30". In that case look into maybe 2x more screens haha? Probably over his budget, but if he drives an AMG C63 then why not.
Thanks, I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But he already has a Samsung XL30 LED monitor and already has mouse/keyboard/speakers and everything. He just wants a PC because right now he's hooking everything up to an Asus G73JW (not the xl30 cuz it's new just got it 2 days ago, he has a dell st2320l for his notebook setup). So just the machine itself is needed.

One thing he said to me is that he's not afraid of performance because $3000 will definitely give more than enough, but he wants reliable parts and to him this means corsair, intel, asus, etc. He's a little biased on brands but if it makes him happy then why not.

And as for WC, costs are VERY high here so we gave that up... back to H70? haha

Oh yeah and... he wants a black/red colour scheme -_- ... sandy bridge + asus mobo + red colour scheme only leaves one mobo available LOL

as well he wants hyperthreading, i asked why he simply just "cuz it's better"

as you can see, spoiled kid with a lot of cash here

but then again, he's had some really good coop jobs and made some good money himself too

ps...reason he got xl30 is because he hate the bezels on eyefinity setups...
Edited by M3i5 - 4/26/11 at 11:17am
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